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Isn't it the whole point, that they'll be better drivers than humans?
Or will they be so good they don't need to follow the rules?
No way. Driving dangerously creates risk no matter your skill level. You can't innovate your way around the laws of physics.
Maybe when it's illegal for humans to drive on public roads, and all the self-driving cars have a local mesh network to coordinate and negotiate actions, we can get rid of human road rules.
But yah, until then, no.
Except pedestrians and cyclists naturally won't be part of this network. So no, it will never be safe.
First, nothing is "safe" in absolute terms. Literally everything a question of relative safety in comparison to something else.
Second I think you're still imagining something like the current road and street systems we have today. Replaceing and outlawing human driving will be at least a century away. By then the transit network will look very different.
The local "last mile" surface streets would have to be mostly bus like systems with very low speeds. In cities at least. In rural areas people at all wouldn't be allowed to walk or cycle on roads for vehicles. There would be seperate routes for that.
Highways will exclusively kind of psudo-road-trains, of buses and cargo trucks. Maybe the wealthy will have their own personal vehicles. Probably not most people.
Of course you and I won't see anything beyond the early stages of this transition.
Oh be reasonable. You can't say everything is relative and then conjure up a hypothetical SF future that doesn't exist and maybe never will.
Isn't that what full self driving vehicles are?
They only barley work in small local areas, needing frequent human interventions when anything unexpected happens. There's no real reason to believe they'll every work in our lifetimes, the way we imagine they will.
That used to be the argument.
The point is still to make money though.
Or that the rich make the rules.