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Pluribus is actually about how White people are the devil

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

God is this gonna be one of those shows where I have no interest in it but it’s gonna take up so much oxygen in the “discourse” that I’m going to have to have some sort of “position” on it?

[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

The show is largely driven by visual storytelling, which lends itself very well to people projecting their own meaning onto it.

That's why the discourse is all over the place, from "literally nothing happens" to "this is obviously deep commentary on my personal experience!" and they could be talking about the same exact scene.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As someone who hasnt watched it, Its looking like it

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Don't. They made it sound interesting but it went pretty lame by mid season.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't waste your time, its liberal slop.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s a good show. IMO it’s not political at all. It’s just a neat sci-fi concept made into a tv series.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Its definitely political. The show runner has said as much.

"I really wasn't thinking about AI when I came up with Pluribus, partly because I came up with it almost 10 years ago, but if people have that takeaway, more power to them," he laughs.

I think everybody hates that we live in a country that feels like there's two sides, two armed camps. It feels like we're on the edge of civil war some days, and I hate that," he says.

"I don't think anybody wants to live like this. They want to figure out a way to get back to a culture, a civilisation where people can disagree. The world of Pluribus, where everybody agrees, that doesn't sound so good either. "But can we find a place where people disagree but they're cool about it?"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-21/pluribus-vince-gilligan-interview-grand-finale/106123758

"But can we find a place where people disagree but they're cool about it?" Fucking no? Not when the disagreement is about socialism or barbarism.

The show's "villain" is a classic case of making the bad guy too reasonable, and having to tack on some bullshit to sour them to the audience.

A decade ago HRC lost to Trump after usurping Burnie in the primaries. That's the space he wrote this script in. Couple that with his own words above and I'm not sure how this could be anything but political.

People who want to "find a place where people disagree but they're cool about it" only want to do so because back then people suffered in silence. People "disagreed" about the rights of trans people (or queer people, or people of color, or immigrants) but "were cool about it" while those groups suffered. But that wasn't enough, that didn't make the line go up enough, so now people suffer in the fucking daylight and it makes guys like this fucking uncomfortable.

That's what sits at the center of this plot. People starved to death every day before the virus, and would continue to do so every day if it never arrived. Now that some arbitrary rule set by the Stalin Virus is going to kill off everyone in a decade , and they tell you its going to happen, now suddenly the situation is "insane". Say nothing of the massive amounts of death coming down the pipe thanks to climate change! Something the woke mind virus fucking solved.

The show is pure liberalism. The show runner is treading into ideological currents he can't possibly understand let alone swim in. The entire show hinges on the arbitrary limitations created by the writers. Instead of simply creating an interesting utopia that some people are missing out on and using that as the vehicle for the character development.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"what if Bernie Bros had gotten their way with that stupid universal health care idea that destroys individual responsibility?"

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry but I think you're just reading way too far into this.

Yes of course Gilligan has utterly shit politics like 99.99% of all Burgerlanders, but I just don't think the premise of the show is political whatsoever, even in spite of those quotes of his that you referenced.

Maybe I will be proven wrong with the way that the show progresses in further episodes, but for the time being I think it's just enjoyable slop.

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I largely agree, what bothers me more than those quotes is this one:

"I'm kind of intrigued about the difference between individuality and conformity," he says.

THIS is the kinda shit I was REALLY hoping he wouldn't say. The premise has so much potential beyond "iNdIVidUAlIsM vS cOlLEcTiVIsM" aka generic anti-communist slop. That being said, having watched the first season, the show is about multiple things, not just one theme. Ep7 is particularly good as a juxtaposition of Carol's position of great material comfort in the US vs. Manousos' trek through one of the most dangerous jungles on Earth just to try and get to her. It's the best episode of the show for that reason

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah that is very low-effort lib-shit for sure. However, I do think the fact that Carole was put into a gay conversion therapy camp as a kid plays heavily into the whole "conformity" thing with the Plurbs.

While watching this show I am choosing to temporarily disable the communism lens that I see everything through and just enjoy the show. The plot could be viewed in so many different ways (ie: antivaxxers interpret the show as being about covid-19 and people wearing masks lmao) and I don't think that there's any real axe being grinded here.

Although maybe I'm wrong and Gilligan is just a political dipshit lol.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anything that isn't "political" is just going to passively support status quo liberal political values, all art is political, whether we like it or not.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, sure, yes, I cannot possibly argue against that. I just get the impression that Gilligan isn't going out of his way to make something overtly political. But I guess it may be absorbing liberalism through osmosis, as with all mainstream media.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I don't think we were ever in disagreement about it, liberals will passively put pro-status quo messages in things because they don't even perceive the status quo and assume that is just the "default" for storytelling.

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Seems like it.

[–] puppygirlpets@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

its going to be the new game of thrones isn't it doggirl-gloom

[–] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Game of Drones kelly

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When the "author who lives in New Mexico" bit is actually clever foreshadowing

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Pluribus is actually about how White people are the devil

I have no interest in this show or ever having discourse about it, but I'm gonna adopt this analysis all the same

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago

Ben Doverman? That has to be a bit, right?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If you're still invested in this show and think Carol is the hero, this is the company you're standing with lol. @JoeByeThen@hexbear.net definitely called it, the hive is the revolution and Carol is the liberal counter revolution. Even Zionists figured it out.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm very much leaning toward the Plurbie Bros theory now, btw. hahaha

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'll ride that train with you all the way to the station!

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

lol. Of course that leaves us with the million dollar question... Is Carol a stand in for HRC? hahaha

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol, I'm pretty sure this guy is a bit tho... right?

https://xcancel.com/BenDovermanAZ14

cognitohazard

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, it's one hell of a bit if so.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

It's a bit account, but dear god Zionists really are that difficult to parody

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Should I watch this show? I know nothing about it except you nerds are talking about it.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

The dude that did breaking bad and better call Saul is doing this new property. Because his last two shows were huge cultural moments and because Apple TV have unlimited advertising money, everyone feels the need to have a take about this new one lest they miss out. Everyone is talking about it because everyone is talking about it.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

It’s a decent show. Just make sure to 🏴‍☠️

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

gonna wait for the show to swerve and then based on the level of enraged posting of its hexbear fans I'll decide whether to bother torrenting it

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Please don't. You'll be glad you didn't.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Yes it's pretty good imo but plenty seem to disagree

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

No, not worth it tbh

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I got sucked in by the hype and wound up binge-watching it over the past couple of days. It's fine; there's a lot of exposition and not a ton of payoff yet because it's only the first of something like four or five planned seasons. The pacing didn't really bother me, but YMMV there. It kind of reminds me of some aspects of Evangelion, but played out in a longer-form format.

Obvious bit account

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

The best part of the show is when they said "it's Plurbin' time!" and all 7.7 billion of them started seizuring at the same time

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't even know what Purbles are and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

Edit: OK, you fuckers convinced me and I watched the damn show. My favorite part --and I'm sure you will agree -- was

Pluribus S02E01 spoilersWhen Carol deadass looks into the camera, puts on her sunglasses, and says, "Oh yeah, it's plurbin' time" and just plurbs out all over the place as it smash-cuts to the opening credits.