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[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

You mean China no longer trusts the country that has constantly tried to overthrow them, sabotage them, destroy their economy, threaten them and intimidate them, even threatening nuclear war with them? I'm absolutely shocked. shocked-pikachu

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

Fucking cretinous writing, calling it a Manhattan Project. "Yes, the nuclear bomb and computer chips are the same, citizen. We have always been at war with Oceanaia."

More evidence that anyone working for a libbed up publication should get the wall.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

china wants to be self sufficient... but at what cost?

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago

What a garbage title. Of course China wants its chips made without US meddling.

At this point everyone wants everything without US meddling. The century of US forced exceptionalism is over.

[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looking forward to illegally importing China's OS and GPUs into the country for my future vram guzzling modded Skyrim playthrough 5 years from now

With how it's going it's gonna be fully legal because west production will collapse and demand will not.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago

It's about the EUV lithography, but the fact that China strieves for independent chip manufacturing at all costs hasn't exactly been breaking news since the mid 90s or so.

[–] TopFell@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

TLDR (reordered):

"The aim is for China to eventually be able to make advanced chips on machines that are entirely China-made. China wants the United States 100% kicked out of its supply chains." — An individual who spoke to Reuters on the condition of anonymity […] Scientists in a top-secret Chinese facility "have built what Washington has spent years trying to prevent," With the help of engineers recruited from ASML […] Chinese scientists reportedly "reverse engineered" the firm's extreme ultraviolet lithography machines, or EUVs.


The Manhattan Project was seen as true race to something novel that introduced a (disruptive) inflection point, presented a clear liminal state towards new Nash Equilibria. This now is a feat, but far from the referenced tale: Nobody will “win” a “war” over it.

“Specialized equipment used to manufacture the semiconductor chips for weapons of war, smartphones, and, crucially, AI technology” is not needed for the latter, and indeed smaller node sizes are used in most of it. 5nm or whatever they are supposedly at is not crucial for “AI technology.”

The narrative that’s sprinkled it, engineers for ASML were the saviours, sounds depressoid and belittling of the competence other enterprises and nations can muster. Same with “the U.S. has long leveraged China's chip-making constraints to maintain technological dominance”—maybe China had to outsource chip production, but it’s a building-block down in the stack. Huawei, DJI, and others show the U.S. is struggling to remain competitive.