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Since its looking more and more that popularity of linux is going to keep rising, I'm kind of worried about how corporations will respond. Way they do things has always been either just trampling weaker things or corrupting them if they cant. Has this topic been considered before in linux communities?

I really like everything about how linux related things work; how application repositories are full of nice things that fellow users have made because they wanted to and not necessarily to make money out of them. And the general wibe of being made for community by the community. And I want it to stay that way.

I think at some point, big corporations like microsoft or google will try adding their crap to the repositorys and try to make them used by majority. Maybe they will also try worming in into the development projects themselves and keep making things more compatible with their own systems or gain more influence over how things are done. Or maybe they are already doing this, i dont know.

I'm quite certain things will escalate more as linux usage rises, as it will directly mean less profits for the corporations (or less perceived profits, you know how they are). And if these things are not considered beforehand, it means the corporations will be able to do more damage before its reacted on and it might be too late by that point. At least that is how i feel about it.

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[–] solomonschuler@lemmy.zip 2 points 40 minutes ago

They can't corrupt Linux, atleast not the larger distros. RPM sponsors fedora development which IBM and other large organizations sponsor RPM. Why don't they corrupt RPM, because 1.) IBM specialize in cloud services and enterprise infrastructure, IBM has no need to deliver consumer grade products because they already make a shit ton of money. 2.) it would ultimately be fucking themselves over; IBM's cloud servers run on Linux, if fedora wanted to monetize the OS by adding trackers, they would ultimately be doing a disservice to their business by pissing off IBM. IBM's infrastructure is based on RPM to pull a shitty move like that would destroy it's sponsors and userbase.

[–] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Here are some things I think can help hold back co-option:

  • As others have said, use copyleft licenses for your projects and consider licenses when choosing what to use or contribute to.
  • Use distros/package repos that are community-run and have firm stances on what is and isn't free software. Don't use proprietary software if at all possible - always look for an alternative.
  • Support open standards, open data and free culture projects like the fediverse, OpenStreetMap, Wikipedia, XMPP, etc. If companies can't control the device, they will try and control the way your device interacts with the world and/or vital services instead. The more freedom we have in adjacent areas, the less they can get their foot in the door.
  • Support charities/volunteers who protect software freedom or adjacent causes, like the Software Freedom Conservancy, NLnet, your fedi admin, FSF, FSFE, EFF, etc.
  • Support some community-run projects you use either by contributing time, or money if the developer(s) ask for it.

I really like everything about how linux related things work; how application repositories are full of nice things that fellow users have made because they wanted to and not necessarily to make money out of them. And the general wibe of being made for community by the community. And I want it to stay that way.

Finally, if anyone is interested in what you think about it, share this point of view with them! I think what's been created is really neat too and the more people who care about the values and freedom, instead of just its technical capabilities, the more chance we have. The only way the big companies can succeed in co-opting this movement is if they can sway enough people who don't care about the values.

[–] Maroon@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This long post has one simple solution: the GPLv3.

It is very contentious, but our tech-broligarcy would've been greatly subdued if more folks used this license instead of other "permissive" (read. Doormat) licenses.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago

and it should be v3 btw; v2 had some loopholes that some companies still benefit from to this day.

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This has been considered by the Linux community literally since the day Linus first announced his kernel on Usenet. The primary defense is the GPL and related licenses which legally protect against that kind of abuse by forcing derived works to also be opened under the same license.

This is why, as much as I support the general idea of uutils, I’m deeply suspicious the it is under a MIT license instead of the GPL.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago

and it should be v3 btw; v2 had some loopholes that some companies still benefit from to this day.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago

Maybe not "extinguish", but opensource - even GPLv3-d - is not immune to commercial exploitation, even abuse. Companies like Google/Alphabet, Ubuntu/Canonical and RedHat have decades of experience here.

Personally I would grade these use cases in the exact order I listed them, worst to OK. But there are many others.

I really like everything about how linux related things work; how application repositories are full of nice things that fellow users have made because they wanted to and not necessarily to make money out of them. And the general wibe of being made for community by the community. And I want it to stay that way.

I totally agree, and while that world also still exists, we have moved past that quite a while ago. But there are lots of smaller developers who want to make money with what they're doing. Done right, I don't see anything wrong with it, but it often is not done right.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Your question is somewhat confusing.

Most Linux distros have a policy against accepting nonfree software in their main repos. As long as that policy remains in place, what are you worried about? That Microsoft and Google will release things as free software? They are already doing that and that is a good thing.

And remember that free software doesn't have owners.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

well, its not directly a question. more of an invitation for discussion about the topic since i wanted to hear what everyone here thinks about it.

The thing i'm worried is the embrace & extinguish strategy the corporations like microsoft use. So far there has been little reason for them to care, since linux has been so marginal operating system, but I think there is good chance linux might become really popular. Win11 is such a mess and combined with really expensive ram, it might not even be useable for many, so only other option is to either use apple or linux

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Can't believe I need to keep stating this around here, but Linux is THE most deployed OS on the entire planet. It's not even close.

Whether it's used for Desktop or not is irrelevant.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I doubt. The usage is SO tiny still, these corps likely don't give a shit.

People today mostly use smartphones over computers and most smartphones are already locked down and controlled by corps, they already won there.

The good news is, we are safe. Probably forever. The public is never going to be technically educated to use Linux, theyre getting dumber with tech every day.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Linux has just under 3% share of the desktops.

(... and most of the internet, cloud hyperscalers, mobile phones, tablets, TVs, routers, supercomputers... )

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Indeed, but linux on other stuff is all locked down (id android)

[–] cloudforms@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

Regulation. People will always adapt, but imo this is firmly a policy and governance issue.

its about heavy regulation and preventing regulatory capture... but corps have deep pockets and people are weak.

its always only a matter of time until people are voting against their own best interests.