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[two characters are talking in a bar, the light blue one of the left looks smug, while the dark blue one on the right looks concerned]

[light blue] Women are so shallow, they only want a tall good looking guy with tons of money

[dark blue] What about Brenda? She seems to really care and is always there for you

[light blue] Brenda? She's fat poor and ugly!

https://thebad.website/comic/shallow

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 55 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I have never heard a guy decline a girl because she is poor.

Because she is fat and/or ugly? Sure.

I also don't think you should date someone you find ugly. While sex is not everything, it's an important part in most relationships.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 15 points 4 months ago

Is poor? No. Fits vaguely into a poor stereotype or cultural corner? All the time.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I have never heard a guy decline a girl because she is poor.

I mean, I've never heard it said explicitly, and our still-largely-partriarchical society does expect and therefore respect penis-havers to bring home the money. So, it doesn't matter that much, with how much money the person without the penis starts out with.

But I do think class differences implicitly still play quite a big role.
To some degree as part of secondary factors, for example you might look for an educated, physically fit partner, which a poor person cannot afford to take the time for.
To some degree, you just won't ever get to know certain poor people, because they might not be able to afford the same hobby as you, or shopping at the expensive store etc..

But even if you do meet someone and they could tick your preferences, it is easy to dismiss their interest outright as just being about money, if you can tell that they have less of it than you.
Even in a patriarchical society, you don't particularly want to be the guy where friends and family snicker that you're being used...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

personality is probably the major one, unless both sexes are so shallow about looks.

[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Ugly people have sex too, you know.
In fact, 50% of people have below-average looks. Do you think they all abstain?

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago

No, I just think people have different taste and different thresholds when to call someone ugly

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

according to who, you? looks is pretty subjective. people do date on personality and i dare say it, your income too in despite of the looks of a person.

Gets more important as you get older, actually.

Letting a chick mooch off you for too long in a common-law state is a bad-idea. Kids with a poor chick is also a bad idea. All of this is moot if you just plan to give her half your stuff early-on; I won't lie, that's more mature than demanding someone you are better-off than put up with your shit indeffinitely; but try that before the relationship ends, and you're likely to find she has no more use for you.

Friend of mine has three criteria for women, aside from attractive which is just a given in his dating pool:

House (at least somewhere to go where she's welcome and not abused)

Income (ideally a job, but passive-income works)

Vehicle (or willing to use whatever form of transport it takes to get her need$ met without constantly borrowing/demanding rides)

If she's not bringing all three to the table, you're paying for whatever you get out of the relationship, somehow. Me? I don't think that would bother me so much were I to find myself single, but I have other criteria re: emotional and overall maturity, and women who have those figured out tend to have the House, Income, Vehicle thing worked-out as well.

Lastly, it goes without saying that if you're not bringing all that to the table, you don't get to be so picky. These are long-term-relationship criteria, but people would be so much healthier if they knocked these all out before pretending they deserve to be anyone else's one-and-only.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Love this modern concept of equality. Instead of everyone becoming a better person, everyone feel free to be your worst self

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

a combination of unrealistic porn bodies and pickup artist community

[–] HeroHelck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This shit drives me insane. It is completely okay to have preferences, why would you expect anyone to want to date someone they do not find attractive? That's absurdly unfair.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but this is more just pointing out hypocrisy, the complaining is what I think they are getting at. He doesn't think his standards are unreasonable only that women having the same standards is unreasonable.

[–] HeroHelck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

Don't misunderstand, I wasn't replying to OP directly, merely commenting on the same thing as him.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guys and gals should be free to apply ALL of those criteria, both ways. You really okay with dudes who do?

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah as long as they can take it, they can dish it.

My thoughts - I am not about to police anyone's desires, that's not my job. Be as picky as you want, it's a big world full of people, you will probably find someone. Just don't get mad if the woman you want finds you don't meet her standards. I've had guys turn me down for being tall, don't care, better to know that even if I think it's stupid, right?

I think my daughters were pickier than the boys, honestly. Not about $$ at all but more picky in general. The boys did more like I did, and their dad, just sort of get around and see what sticks, you might be surprised who you find hottest and most attractive.

I would be annoyed if a guy didn't like that I work and take care of my looks and health, too. My husband is funny, he says I have raised his standards. Me, I got what I wanted, sex every day and a guy who works and makes money, works out, he's not shredded at all but fit and padded, yes? He got what he wanted, I work and make money, shit at housekeeping but really good cook, I stay in shape and work out too. So some of what reads as picky can be more lifestyle matching. I would not be with a sedentary guy, certainly not at this point. I am older and not signing up for a 100% chance of taking physical care of some physically idle old man when he inevitably gets sick.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

BRENDA IS A RAGE BAITING BITCH

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Brenda dodged a bullet

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Where is Brenda? She sounds perfect, we have so much in common!

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I mean, women aren't much better tbh.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Comic holding a mirror, discussing men and women behaving the same.

yeah but women are the same too!

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 9 points 4 months ago
10 PRINT β€œWomen bad”
20 PRINT β€œMen bad”
30 GOTO 10
[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh you are a mennist. That makes your weird takes on the AI story make more sense.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stalking my account, now Tagger? You mast love talking with me.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Troll going to troll. Bye

Worse, particularly in how they'll react when confronted with dudes who also use the "well off" criteria.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Dumb gender debates again