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Hello all, looking for a good autotiling window manager that is wayland based but is NOT hyprland. Sway seems to be an option but I don't really want to install a plugin to make it autotile... Anyway, does anybody else have any other suggestions?

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[–] eneff@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Have you tried Niri? It scrolls!

Haven't tried it myself, but I've heard good things.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Recently switched from sway to niri on my laptop and loving it so far. The tiling+scrolling behavior feels very natural to me.

[–] Cease@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 2 points 1 week ago

yeah +1 for Niri. I love it. in most cases I don't even bother with workspaces anymore because of Niri, makes things easier and the vim nav is perfect. great documentation, it's fast, and very easy to configure.

[–] Subm77@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

There is also river-classic and river 4.0 which has not yet been released.

[–] GreyCat@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I do recommend sway if you don't find an alternative, it works really well. But yeah, no auto-tiling by default.
Can I ask why are you against Hyprland ?

EDIT: The arch wiki has a list

[–] Cease@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thought it was common knowledge at this point...

Creator of hyperland:

[A trans person] joined the Discord server and made a big deal out of their pronouns [..] because they put their pronouns in their nickname and made a big deal out of them because people were referring to them as “he” [misgendering them], which, on the Internet, let’s be real, is the default. And so, one of the moderators changed the pronouns in their nickname to “who/cares”. […] Let’s be real, this isn’t like, calling someone the N-word or something.

a screenshot from their discord:

[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I use Sway and can really recommend it.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

River!! It's a Wayland dynamic tiler, which sounds like it's what you're looking for. I really like it. I've been using it for a few years and have been happy.

Note that they're currently undergoing a significant rewrite for the 0.4 release which will break people's setups. However, the 0.3 branch will continue to be maintained indefinitely for those who don't want to switch.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve been using it for a few years

undergoing a significant rewrite for the 0.4 release

I plan to try it when it's ready. Some time next century at this rate.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is "ready". The 0.3 branch and the 0.4 branch can be thought of as different compositors, and the 0.3 branch is a fully-functional compositor in its own right. Some people will never upgrade to 0.4 because they either prefer 0.3 or can't be bothered to make the transition.

Also the way you quoted that made it sound like the 0.4 release has been a WIP for years. Believe it or not 0.3 was not the first River release... They haven't been planning the RWM release the whole time.

[–] merci3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a tiling window manager, but would Cosmic possibly serve your usecase?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

it can do tiling ig

I currently use niri but I've looked at mangowc as well https://github.com/DreamMaoMao/mangowc

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Try mangowc. Pretty new but promising. Also has scrolling if you're into that.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago
[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

window manager that is wayland based

The term you want is "compositor" rather than "window manager". Under Wayland, the relatively-modest role of the X11 window manager has been replaced by the larger compositor, which does a superset of what window managers did.

I don’t really want to install a plugin to make it autotile

I don't know what "autotiling" is. Looking online, I see various people using the term for different things. A script for sway uses this term and states that it automatically-selects between horizontal or vertical splitting orientation based on the currently-focused window dimensions. Is this the functionality that you're asking for?

[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Why not sway?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Also requires a plugin, so probably not your thing, but KDE with the Krohnkite KWinScript also works decently well.

[–] gordonzhang@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I would suggest bspwm.

https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bspwm

…haven’t really used it (I use Hyprland), but heard of it several times. I did saw a few people using it, and it looked quite impressive after properly configuring.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

I have this moon here if you'd like it?