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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's backers view his corruption trial as a witch hunt — but his detractors argue it is the system finally catching up to a ruthless political operative who is prepared to do anything to hold on to power.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

What a timeline. Trump makes most everyone hate and abandon the usa. Netanyahu makes most everyone hate and abandon israel.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 22 hours ago

Tbh I don't want Netanyahu to go bc then we'll probably end up with someone from Otzma or Mafdal as PM (or some other Kahanist like Almog Cohen) and they are even crazier racists. Personally I have mixed feelings about this.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Israel is a passenger train hurtling off a cliff driven by an insane evil train conductor as many of the passengers attempt to scramble to the front and defeat the evil train conductor so they can speed the train's hurtling trajectory off the cliff up, what a living nightmare.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Are... Are the passengers that are trying to stop the train in the room with us right now? ?

Also they're all either rapusing prisoners or training puppies to rape prisonwrs, while trying to crash the train

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vast majority of Israeli society support the ethnic cleansings, they aren't trying to stop it

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Its spelled 'genocide' dear. 'Ethnic cleansing' is whitewashing weaselspeak marketing language to excuse genocide.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous. Along with direct removal such as deportation or population transfer, it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return, such as murder, rape, and property destruction.[1][2][3][4][5] Both the definition and charge of ethnic cleansing is often disputed, with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killings as a means of depopulating an area of a particular group,[6][7] or calling it a euphemism for genocide or cultural genocide.[8][9]

I'm talking about every aspect of ethnic cleansing used by Zionism since the early 1900's, that includes genocide. The books by Ilan Pappe, Nur Masalha, Rashid Khalidi, and even Sara M. Roy

You're thinking of genocide denial, such as when people say Israel 'may have committed war crimes' if even acknowledging it at all instead of calling each and every victim 'Hamas' as if that's some ultimate justification

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh shit, you quoted Wikipedia. Guess I can't argue.

The correct word is genocide.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's almost as if English doesn't have multiple terms for just about everything.

With different connotation etymology fdeep meanings precise contours,yeah!

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Stop being pedantic. I'm talking about every aspect of the settler colonialist project, from economic to eradication.

Acting like Ilan Pappe was whitewashing history in his book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, when he details the Nakba, is fucking ridiculous.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't read it, know nothing about the author or their intent. Maybe they used a term they expected to get past censors; maybe they're a shitlib at heart, maybe the publisher changed it and they were mad as fuck. Plenty of possibilities.

My statement, I believe; stands.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Do you often find yourself standing with your fingers in you ears saying 'bla bla bla I can't hear you' when confronted with a slightly different view point?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

It is a genocide, my point is that the Zionist project's goal of forced expulsion is far more encompassing, both in methods and timeframe. Which historians have gone into much detail about within their decades of works.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No, but then I wouldn't know if it did; I wouldn't be able to hear.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel isn't at risk of destruction, and most of the people in Israel are fine with the direction they're headed.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who says this is a literal cliff and not a metaphorical precipice of inhumanity?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Verb tense and publication century.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Our apartheid democracy" vs. "Our apartheid dictatorship"

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

can't call it democracy if half the population isn't seen as human and don't get to vote

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

can’t call it democracy if half the population isn’t seen as human and don’t get to vote

"More democratic oligarchy vs. less democratic oligarchy" if you prefer (though I could quibble about the meaning of democracy) but the effective message is the same. "These shitheads are right to not want the less democratic option, but are missing the broader fucking issue that is leading them to the question in the first place"

I'm not quibbling about definitions of democraticies, it'll be hard to figure out a definition for it that includes Israel. apartheid and democracy are mutually exclusive.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago

100% Occupied Palestine has always been a shit show. From the day the land was stolen out from under the people living there to make it.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago