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Dozens killed as Israeli forces attack al-Fakhoora School in northern Gaza (Warning: NSFL Video) (www.aljazeera.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Silverseren@kbin.social to c/world@lemmy.world

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Many hundreds of people are believed to have taken shelter at the UN-run school.

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[-] palal@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago

I'm sure lemmy.world will try to justify this because of the existence of one supposed Hamas militant on the premises.

Unarmed. Visiting their family.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

You mean reddit?

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

/r/worldnews in particular, along with /r/Destiny, /r/Israel, and /r/2ndYomKippurWar, of course.

[-] JimboDHimbo@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

No, they meant lemmy.world. specifically the reddit transplants from the API thing tho

[-] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I noped out at the first clearly child-sized body. (Which wasn't very far into the video.) Nothing anyone says will convince me that this is OK, nor to accept Israel's righteousness at the current stage of this conflict.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The Hasbara propagandists will be along to blame this on Hamas and on the victims for not moving to a random place that isn't going to be bombed at that particular moment.

Zionists are utter psychopaths.

[+] avater@lemmy.world -25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

newborn account, very much anti israel, negative or insulting comments, pro communism and from the sound of some of your post's possible also pro putin and Xi...don't know man you check a lot of boxes...

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

User with "get fucked" on their profile, truly the paragon of positive and complimentary comments.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

If one wants to be ideologically consistent, they need to be pro-Ukraine and pro-Palestinian. Or the opposite, I suppose.

Otherwise, they're just being an inherent hypocrite who is purposefully ignoring facts about one or the other conflict.

[+] palal@lemmy.ml -13 points 11 months ago

People are entirely failing to acknowledge that peace was an option in Ukraine - and it's pushing people towards war in Taiwan. It's an ideological war that's taken precedence over the hundreds of thousands of lives lost.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

The only option for peace in Ukraine (and in Taiwan if that happens) is if Russia and China gives up. Any other "peace" for Ukraine was them giving up the land Russian's invasion had already taken, which was not an option for them.

Russia and China are the aggressors and the evil ones in those situations. Only tankie morons claim otherwise.

[+] palal@lemmy.ml -7 points 11 months ago

The final agreement (as leaked by various negotiators) was that Crimea would remain Russian while Russia would withdraw to their pre-02/24 lines.

Supposedly there was talk that Donetsk and Luhansk would function as autonomous administration regions within Ukraine (I guess, a bit like Xinjiang, Tibet, and Inner Mongolia are in China?), but I can't find a source for that.

The claim that the only option for peace in the Taiwan conflict is if China gives up is, frankly, untrue. Under the KMT government (2008-2016), China had basically accepted the status quo (Taiwan with de facto independence). This is why cross-strait dialogue was so positive in the 2008-2016 period.

In 2008, the KMT said that "it is the "common aspiration" of the people from both sides of the Taiwan Straits to build a peaceful and win-win future" and the CPC confirmed this, saying "The two parties said they wished to enhance exchanges and dialogue, reach common ground on issues, increase mutual trust and promote cooperation, and take more responsibility for peace and development across the Strait." In confirmation of the 1992 Consensus, both parties agreed in 2009 to "avoid internal struggle in foreign affairs." In 2013, both parties agree to work towards " rejuvenating the Chinese nation." In 2015, the CPC called on people to remember the shared bond between CPC-KMT in the fight against the Japanese imperialists. Then, of course, there was the landmark meeting between the CPC leader Xi Jinping and the KMT leader Ma Ying-Jeou in 2015.

Since then, relations have deteriorated rapidly under the DPP. Dialogue from Taiwan has shifted from one of maintaining the status quo to one seeking explicit independence (DPP policy, which contradicts KMT policy). Dialogue from China has shifted from one of building relations to one of "avoiding conflict."

[-] avater@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The final agreement (as leaked by various negotiators) was that Crimea would remain Russian while Russia would withdraw to their pre-02/24 lines.

What a nice agreement for the Russians. Just let them have the land they never had the right to take and that they invaded by force and everything is shiny. Those are no peace negotiations, this is a farce by Russia who think they can get through with this bullshit. There is no peace until Russia fucks of to the pre-2014 lines!

The nerve to call this peace...

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Putin and other Russian government officials made it very clear that they were trying to make Donetsk and Luhansk separate so they could just assimilate them later.

It was a non-deal entirely.

You mean that the Taiwanese people saw that the party in charge during that prior period were just CCP shills and were trying to force re-assimilation over time. And the people of Taiwan rejected that and thus elected the DPP. Taiwan as a whole is shifting to a more progressive society and they don't want conservatives like the KMT around anymore.

They are an independent country. They have been for decades and are now asserting that more strongly.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

According to Fiona Hill:

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement” by last April. That outline would have seen Russia withdraw to its pre–February 24 lines.

Calling the party that literally fought against the CPC a CPC shill is something new, though. Saying that one group of people deserves self determination while another group doesn't is also... New.

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