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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 93 points 1 week ago (62 children)

Opposing fascism isn’t far left. That’s just being a decent person.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The US doesn’t really have a far left. It barely has a left. What MAGA calls left tends to be rather center, like the position that people should be able to afford healthcare.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago

"Radical left Joe Biden" will never not be funny.

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[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Advanced strawman. Opposing fascism isn't far left. It's just not-right.

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[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What if I informed you that there are more than two options, and they don't have to be extremities? And what if I followed up by informing you that what we have in the US, for a political spectrum, is not the norm elsewhere in the world?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The political spectrum in the U.S. omits leftists entirely. Both Republicans and Democrats are pro-capitalism and pro-U.S. imperialism.

[–] Isolde@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what if that not only changed nothing, but didn’t refute the post?

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My reply was more aimed at the title of the post and its sentiment. "Pick a side"

I'm not a believer that there are only two political options for the US, long term, and would love to see a true political multi-party representation in the US government. I believe that something not completely (EU) far left will prevail in the US. And absolutely not the (US) far right. (Perhaps I'm just being a wishful fool, and the US will crash and burn in the next 1-5 years. Hopefully, we can make it out of this mess without doing so. But if it has to happen, so be it.)

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

completely (EU) far left

The EU is only "far left" in comparison to the US.

But that's because the US has moved so far to the right that they can't see any other political position from where they stand.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too bad there isn't a political party representing "The Left"

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

I wish Americans had leftist politicians half as cool as the right likes to pretend they are.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Centrists are actually with maga, they just don't wear the hat. See Fetterman, Schumer, Jeffries, etc

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

I'll summarize something I said before:

Democrats will hurt you for money, but Republicans will pay for the privilege. Both parties subservient to capital but there are still meaningful distinctions. Change must come from the bottom.

[–] Arctic_monkey@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Counterargument: Centrists are actually a diverse group with many very different positions, that just have in common the fact they don't agree with either of the currently dominant political factions.

Aggressive reposte: what you just did (political stereotyping, where you label everyone who disagrees with you as basically being the same cartoon villain) is, in my experience, an example the left-wing bigotry that drives centrists away from your political faction. Disagreeing with your doesn't mean that I agree with the hateful morons on the right, it just means I also see and won't tolerate your bigotry.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Far left citizens may oppose fascism but their leaders aren't doing a good job of it. America needs a better left wing party.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

your right because there is none

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yet another poorly made fallacy meme. Is there a bot just crapping out this same template every few days?

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[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why does the left have to keep being represented as long hair, man bun hippy types?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'm a balding hippy type

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I mean..... I'm not in a position to disagree with it.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

We hate centrists. Everyone hates centrists

Yeah, both are too loud and impeding the centrist ability to go back to Brunch lmao

Brunch: May or may not include stuffing their own pockets

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

From a Canadian instance, really? This shit is so frustrating to see. The whole two party nonsense that this bullshit pushes is exactly why the usa is in the mess they are in now.

No, people don't have to "pick a side" the ones who think in terms of teams are our enemy.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is not there are two sides. The problem is that there is only one side with 2 parties with the rest left unrepresented.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How about we stop pretending that the left doesn't have its own share of emotionally damaged asshats and try to pick leadership that solves problems instead of pandering to one side or the other?

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