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During Donald Trump’s first administration, commentators sagely advised that his words, were to be “taken seriously, not literally”. Experience suggests that formula puts the cart before the horse.

A new US National Security Strategy and a series of comments from US officials, presidential proxies and Trump himself, have culminated in what could be one of the most profound crises for Atlanticism, the security doctrine that has sustained peace and democracy in Europe since the end of the second world war.

Where Trump’s point of departure was once the failure of Europe to contribute sufficiently to its own security, he has now embraced a more alarming vision.

Coloured both by racism and a staggering contempt for Europe’s political institutions and leaders, he has warned of the risk of civilisational collapse on a continent he barely knows, and that he has viewed more often from the window of an armoured sedan.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The orange tainted cunt can't die soon or painfully enough. May he suffer long.

Meanwhile I'll be sipping a nice whisky here in "failing" Europe.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Looking at who is Vice President and who is in that government I am not even sure Trump dying is solving anything.

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I've long suspected that MAGA will quickly fall apart following Trump's death, or at least splinter violently into dozens of factions. Trump is too much of a cult of personality for that power to be neatly handed down to any one successor; even if the GOP brass bend the knee to Vance, I still think the people themselves are going to cannibalize him and each other over not being "Trump" enough.

Maybe that's wishful thinking though. I can only hope.

That sounds right to me

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

the groypers already deemed him too weak, i see at least that split. plus the charlie kirk camp.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is a degree of cult of personality but I risk that is more of performance to keep attentions on it. In shadows there may exist a whole, very well organized, "governing" body that will pick up the piece if the main stage is left empty.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But that shadow entity won't have the support of MAGA. That's the whole point.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The group famous for deciding opinions for themselves? The amazing critics of modern politics? Those groups that take all voices into consideration and make rational choices?

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The group whose singular cohesive thought is worshipping Trump.

They're literally incapable of any kind of solidarity with their own kin that doesn't revolve around the orange child rapist. Take cheetoh paedo out of the equation and they'll incredibly quickly devolve into infighting about purity and ideological differences. They're already doing that on small scale about ICE targeting white people or the fact the Epstein files weren't released yet. Imagine what will happen when the orange turd won't be there to be worshipped.

The results are quite simple:

  1. the shadow leadership will try to create a small unified front using people like JD Vance to represent them. Some MAGA will fall in line but most won't because Trump is more and more truthful about despising most of the people in his cabinet.

  2. The various MAGA grifters will start their own offshoots of the movement with slightly different ideologies, but instead of working together they'll be fighting each other like how Fuentes is fighting the mainline MAGA grifters right now. They'll run their own representatives and denounce all other factions, breaking up the voter unity, resulting in vote splitting.

  3. Some republicans will try to claw their way back to a more moderate position, hoping to gain some votes back, but reality is, they'll need a solid decade before anyone trusts them again, if not more.

All in all, Trumps death will be quite beneficial to everyone. Except maybe Putin.

I completely believe you

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

putin has a lot to lose without trump around, i dont jd vance will be able to hold onto power.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I sincerely hope so, but we'll see. The world has overwhelmingly shown its stupidity of late.

[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what are you drinking? I just bought my annual bottle of bushmills 21 year old. I also fuck with redbreast 21 year.. I dont like peated whiskeys so im stuck with basically irish whiskey and very few scottish whiskys

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

I don't like peaty/smokey whiskey either - for everyday drinking I found the cheaper Shackleton replica to be excellent, and for fancy occasions, I got a bottle of the second edition. Costs a pretty penny for the proper edition (£175), but IMO it is worth it - I've already tasted it as a friend of mine got a bottle he popped when his wife finally got pregnant.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

Were that everyone opposed to him could join you.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The current legal retirement age needs to also be the maximum age one can hold office in any branch or institution of state and local governments.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

Airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age because they could kill 100s of people with a mistake. Trump has killed untold numbers so far with his decisions.

[–] monkeyman69@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 3 days ago

He's a massive bellend.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I need to work harder on myself!

Every time I think his words won't become more stupid than this or that he won't bend his words more than 3,75x full circle. But then ..... He opens his mouth again and automatically prove me wrong ... again

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 8 points 3 days ago

Like most things with the GOP and their leader, this is also projection.