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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

all the way back in 2014 in fact when the US couped their elected government

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is no need to fear, Trump WILL betray Ukraine. You can stop all your worrying.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Everybody with even a minimally functioning brain knew that Ukraine was an expendable pawn for the west. The real story is that the US will throw Europeans under the bus as well.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, that is a very valid fear but I'm not sure why Europe's leaders don't take over the US share of enabling Ukraine's defense if that's how they feel.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

Because Europe is materially incapable of filling in America's shoes.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

European countries spend too much on their people's well-being to properly outfit a military as massive and bloated as America's.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago
[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Also, rich that in the same breath that you ridicule American defense spending, you cry that Europe is too poor to come to its own defense. Some real mental gymnastics there.

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

What he means is, Europeans get a better return on the taxes they pay than Americans do, but their leaders are still fuckwits.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago

That sounds like a pretty big copout.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

It’s on my Bingo card.