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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/54126025

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[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 109 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If social policies put you out of business, you don’t run a business, you run a racket.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This tshirt I would buy. Or hooded sweatshirt

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll whip something up for you later. You want proprietary font, atkinson, handwritten, or cursive?

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 1 points 2 days ago

Jairo-glyfix, dawg.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tell that to the military.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Military should not be a business.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

They need that memo too.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

I mean.... I would

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

2025 update:

'can't pay artists to train our ai models, it'd put us out of business!'

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wish they would. AI VA could be so great if people were just paid properly.

Imagine- You have the English Voice track for Arnie in Terminator- but you need a Chinese version.

Old worlds- You either have a bad local VA that sucks but is at least 'acting' OR you have people reading the script over the English version, you get the inflections from English, but the verbiage from local... script readers.

Imagine if instead of using AI to cheap out, you got those local VA's to do a version of the voices (and paid them!) then ran it through an NN so that the input was the local VA and the output is a combination of that and Arnold's voice (and all parties are paid appropriately, this isn't suppose to be a cheap out process) such that you could hear 'arnie' in all langauges - That would be great.

But instead we just get cheating artists out of pay for a worse quality product.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They can't even make money stealing other people's work. Actually paying for it is out of the question. Right now they're still living in the free money portion of a bubble. The crash is going to hurt a lot.

[–] fermionsnotbosons@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

It won't hurt them though, not when they get that bailout money from public funds so that only we have to suffer the consequences of their actions.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You’ve already shown a flaw, which is that English inflections do not match other languages. “I will go” in English is not “Je irai” in French but rather some more like “moi, j’irai.” The sound of the voice also wouldn’t make any sense because different dubs will change to fit local stereotypes. In the states they will have someone sound like a redneck but in Germany they might lean into a Bavarian accent for the same effect.

With the low level of understanding demonstrated in your comment, plus the high level of confidence in your solution, you’re showing exactly why it’s a bad idea. Just pay voice actors and pay them enough that they will actually be of a certain quality instead of bitching that the dime-store VA people aren’t giving you top-tier performances.

Take the AI and throw it straight in the garbage. We don’t need it and we don’t fucking want it. All it does is cost more money to produce a product that only an ignorant, over-confident corpo thinks is any good.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Fuck your business. If it's not even equitable to live, get fucked, social contract broken, and I will just take whatever I need from you by force. I'm not gonna lay down and die because of your fucking profit margin.

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can't tax the Billionaires, they would run away

Can't implement healthcare for all, it would cost too much

Can't allow people to unionize, it would hurt business

Can't regulate banks, the free market knows best

Can't fix tax loopholes, the rich will just find new ones

...

I could go on. For the every common sense solution there is a lie from the right, why it would not work. Always the same disproven lies, repeated like a mantra.

In workers rights and beyond.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

You would think the fact that these policies led to 1% of the population controlling 99% of the wealth would prove its all bullshit, but people just can't seem to get enough boot polish in their diets

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Can't stop training algorithms on IP we don't own, would put us out of busuness."

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

*Goes out of business anyways despite even extra help on top."

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It is the ultimate ponzi scheme

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't stop exploiting animals, it'd be bad for the economy

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a little more upset that we can't stop exploiting people.

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if you believe the life of a human is thousand times more important than the life of a single animal, the scale at which we exploit animals would still be immensely worse. And also this is literally just whataboutism

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The post is about labor, you made it about animal welfare. The whataboutism is coming from inside the house.

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I was adding to it, not challenging it's claims.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I never understood government regulation being portrayed as bad by the proponents (not profiteers, as in their case there is a much more obvious incentive) of capitalism. As a business owner you are "not allowed" to break the laws of physics. You can't build a factory that makes your product out of air (unless you sell liquid nitrogen I guess). No one makes an argument against physics. If the government decides you also can't build a factory that dumps all it's waste into the residential watersupply that's just the rules of the game now. It's not like your rivals are going to be any more allowed to that, so why be bitch about it? As long as everyone plays by the same rules - be they hard truths or laws that ensure the welfare of the people - there really is no argument to be made against tweaking them. If your business model doesn't leave space for safe waste disposal, should we go with that example, then your business model is just as ridiculous as trying to for example make cars out of thin air.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's because regulations cut into their profits. The line must always go up.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 2 points 3 days ago

I totally get that just not from the people who don't actually profit. If you think capitalism is good but don't actually get a slice of the cake you really shouldn't oppose regulation.

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

If capitalists could alter the laws of physics to increase profits, they absolutely would.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

These people are the kind to talk about how smart and great they are and that’s why they deserve hundreds of millions of dollars but also when all the studies show that four-day work-week would lead to increase productivity and a high quality of work they kick and scream like little babies.

They don’t know what they’re doing so they complain about the rules that make things hard. Why get good when you can just throw a temper-tantrum and then brag about how you finished Dark Souls without telling anyone that you played it on god-mode?