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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 month ago (1 children)

isn't it strange that he just drops the "read code" part right as he pivots into his pro-AI drivel?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

And nothing about describing something in natural language to the slop machine involves "writing code."

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Me want burger" directed at the microwave while it spins your frozen mid-tier burger.

It spits out a weirdly hot but cold "burger" after a minute. The bread is mush and the patty is frozen in the center, but it's a burger none the less.

"Wow and just think, in a decade everyone could be a 5star chef like me"

I like my microwave as much as the next person, and it has its usecase like any tool, but lets not start building microwaves into cars and fridges and washing machines.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For some reason the burger has four buns. The pickles are on top of the outer bun. There is a second plate inside the burger.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this rate, we will have Perfect Burgers in another six months to two years

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We just need 2 trillion more and another 20 coal power plants brought online to achieve Perfect Burgers™

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~Disclaimer:~ ~The~ ~word~ ~"Perfect"~ ~in~ ~the~ ~name~ ~Perfect~ ~Burgers~ ~is~ ~a~ ~trademark~ ~and~ ~does~ ~not~ ~imply~ ~actual~ ~perfection.~

[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

If you look at old microwave ads they claimed the microwave would replace the oven and stove and do everything in the kitchen for you faster and easier.

In my lifetime I've been told electric slow cookers, instapots, and now airfriers would do everything for me and they all ended up being just another tool.

Marketing is a hell of drug.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wouldn't count vibe coding as writing code.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's more like asking the village wise man to read a letter to you, but he's also mostly illiterate and just makes stuff up.

[–] JonHammCock@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, he does make stuff up, but it’s not malicious. He’s just read 100 letters like this before, and also has a good idea of what you are hoping the letter says. Don’t worry though, if you call him out on it, he will apologize and try again.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Well, he does make stuff up, but it’s not malicious.

Mecha Hitler™ begs to differ

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Modern day script kiddies.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Even worse, at least script kiddies had to find their scripts somewhere

[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can anyone give me a single example of something that works well that was created via "vibe coding" from someone who doesn't know how to code otherwise?

I'll wait.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I almost replied with a simple Csv parser I wrote for work until I saw "who doesn't know how to code otherwise". I've known how to code for almost a decade now.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

similarly, I was going to mention a receipt processing program that my boss wrote that allegedly works, but he's been programming robots and writing PLC for a decade

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

I'll wait.

crickets hum to each-other in the distance

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago

Vibe coding doesn't mean that you can write code you dumb fuck. That's like saying that somebody can read and write because they can use voice typing and text to speech on their phone.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago

This is one of the more absurd things I’ve read today

[–] entwine@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

Literacy and programming are not equivalent. Nobody needs to learn how to code unless it's required for work. Even if AI made people able to read/write code, it would not be much of a net positive to society as there's no indication that the demand for programmers will increase as well. If anything, AI agents/chatbots would be able to replace some categories of software (like search engines), and would thus decrease the amount of software that needs to be written overall.

I bet if you went back a few decades to the pre-internet era and showed someone wikipedia, they'd come to similar lofty conclusions about how everyone will be able to become an expert in anything. Not to discount Wikipedia's value today, but we aren't living in a post-ignorance society where everyone knows everything.

If you're going to join the AI circlejerk, at least make sure you don't have erectile dysfunction.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

10 years down the line, more people will know some amount of coding (it's in school curriculum nowadays).

If the AI bubble doesn't break, 600 years down the line, there will be lesser coder and people who make simple applications the traditional way nowadays, will be looked at, in a similar way one now looks at those bootstrapping new instructions using assembly, into compilers.

This prediction will most probably go wrong too though. If the AI bubble doesn't break soon enough, our civilisation bubble might end up breaking and we'd end up at 5% people being able to read and write.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I can write g-code, does that also count?