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The countries committed to permanently ending fossil fuel use now far outnumber those against. Their problem? Their chief organising conference, the 30-year-old COP conferences, comes with vetoes from the petro-states. This year, 1,600 fossil industry lobbyists attended, and they managed to get any mention of fossil fuels scrubbed from the final agreement.

This ridiculous state of affairs can't continue, and this is a classic move to break the deadlock. Sideline COP & the petrostates, by creating an alternative, they don't have power in.

The first ever International Conference on the Just Transition Away from Fossil Fuels, scheduled for April 2026.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

I honestly don't know why this is not more common. If particular countries are way off the mean, median, or mode then they are just acting as spoilers to progress.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 30 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Australia, Austria, Belgium, Cambodia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Jamaica, Kenya, Luxembourg, Marshall Islands, Mexico, Micronesia, Nepal, Netherlands, Panama, Spain, Slovenia, Vanuatu and Tuvalu.

Good start!!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Gave up on alphabetical order right at the end lol

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

And of course Sweden isn't on there. Fucking joke of a government we have right now.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Where's Germany? The damn Green party better step up!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

As a Canadian, I'd like to apologies that our cheap imitation of Texas is beholden to its American owners and this precludes our involvement. I'm sick and weary of so much concentrated stupid, and let me add my apology to the list for the embarrassment in our midst.

We're in a terrible spot right now, but we're counting on the local aborigines to pass up so.much.payola and block this new greasy pipeline, and it's 50-50.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

fuck, at this point I'm sick and wary of what they might do, not just weary of it

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it's 50-50.

Haida Nation is not going to allow tankers on northern BC coast.

https://www.wcel.org/blog/support-oil-tanker-moratorium-act-has-history-its-side

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You've listed 24 countries but none of them are the UK which is in the title (as Britain). Something's off or someone else joined.

I thought it was strange, but it's what was listed.

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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 58 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Australia is pretty much run by the coal and mining industries.

It's not an insult, just a fact.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The mining oligarchs (Rinehart, Palmer and such) bet big on the conservatives winning power and undoing the energy transition Trump-fashion at the last election, and lost spectacularly. The conservatives are out of power, and it appears to be for a long time, so the chickens are coming home to roost. The government is by no means a radical one (regardless of what some of the more unhinged propaganda from the fossil-funded right says), though as the markets themselves are leaning towards renewables on economic grounds alone, they’re trying to balance this transition with keeping the economy stable. Hence officially promoting the transition and funding decarbonisation of energy whilst still approving coal mines.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's hard for Australia to quit those coal export dollars. We hardly use the stuff ourselves, too expensive to maintain the furnaces compared to solar and wind.

I note that although it was the conservative side that hobbled the mineral resource rent tax, neither side restored that (nor the similar tax on liquid and gas fossil fuels)

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 3 days ago

We hardly use the stuff ourselves

Uhhh what? Coal is is still like half of all our energy generation.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

remember when scott morrison brought in some coal and told everyone not to fear it? Ah, good times /s

edit: to parliament, i meant

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe, and? Do you believe it can change and/or has the right to change?

The conference's page does not try to pretend that it's all shiny and perfect right now. Quoting:

Hosting this summit in a major coal port, in the world’s fifth-largest coal producer, sends a powerful message: fossil-fuel-dependent nations want to end their dependence on oil, gas, and coal extraction, but doing so fairly requires unprecedented international cooperation so that no one is left behind.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Coal use != coal mining. Exporting shit to make yourself look cleaner is not how it works. It is exactly as bad.

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

To what are you replying to really? Does it say anywhere in the original article that the new conference is about the reduction of coal use but not mining? I haven't found any indications of that; instead, I see mentions that they want to reduce overall "coal dependency" and "coal extraction":

transitioning away from fossil fuel extraction
oil, gas, and coal extraction
global effort to phase out coal

https://fossilfueltreaty.org/first-international-conference

I think such a trivial thought has come to the organizers of this conference and it's well addressed.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I originally replied to someone, must have ended up in the wrong place.

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

That was supposed to be in regards to Australia? We don't use coal, but boy do we mine it.

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[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

bravo! genuinely good politicians detract on these times from a lobbyist summit. i applaud politicians of these states that detract

yesterday is what inspires theory

praxis is all that decides tomorrow

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

We're going to make our own climate conference with blackjack and bookers.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You don't need a commitee to permanently end fossil fuels. We're in the early phase of hitting extraction limits already. You can't get blood from a stone.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago

We've thought that many times. But any time we reach the perceived limits, riskier or harder to get to sources just become economically viable to exploit.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago

meh. could have said the same thing before fracking.

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