Western perception of “Social credit” largely propaganda btw and if you believe it isnt then you got manipulated.
The Chinese social credit thing is a myth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
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Damn, what happened here? I can only feel the warm ground, but I can tell there was a fire.
ikr, i feel like i missed the drama
Guess we’ll never know, friend.
759 credit score. Still don't qualify.
I don't think many people in the West like credit score system either tbh
Since this is an anarchist instance, I was willing to give OP the benefit of a doubt that this is against states in general but, alas, reading their comments it is whataboutism
In another thread they were praising Stalin so I don’t think they deserve benefit of the doubt.
i'm getting close to blocking. their behavior i feel violates rule 6 (or 7 i can't see the sidebar on mobile) that users of this community should not deify past socialist experience. they have demonstrated a pattern of behavior that strongly favors imperialism with a veneer of leftist aesthetic. the mods ignoring this pattern in the face of reports has left a really bad taste in my mouth that's been slowly driving me away from dbzer0 and anarchist.nexus, two of my former favorite instances aside from my own here at slrpnk.net.
totalitarian authoritarian regimes are what socialism and communism are meant to be an alternative to, not something we should celebrate as long as they wear a red coat of paint. it's been very dissapointing as the rules of this communicate that this is supposed to be a generally left comm but more and more it's just !memes@lemmy.ml but on another instance
Yes I do feel leftymemes @ dbzer0 unfortunately has a sizeable ML influence.
The main mod of this community actually does some soviet union apologia I think. Which means the rules 6 basically isnt followed while they’re in charge.
It’s really only 2 or 3 users (who I think are mods or admins) that are pushing the tankie trash.
db0 the admin seems alright, so I’m not sure why they allow this behavior here.
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Lot of people defending it though
"It's not that bad 700 score is easy to get"
I defaulted on a loan and my credit score dropped down to 500. Still being chased by the debt collectors a year later and it's gone back up to 700 by itself. I have no credit cards or anything. The whole thing is a joke.
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Two things can be bad at the same time.
Yes that seems to be the point of the post
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Not to say credit scores are fun, but comparing the two is kinda absurd. Credit scores are calculated by private companies and used by banks to determine your eligibility for a loan. Essentially, it's an averaged history of how good you are at repaying debt, and it's used to determine if you will repay future debt. The people who calculate your score have no interest in how it affects you. The social credit system is a government score and has tons of things that can affect it, and there's plenty of opportunity for fudgery to screw you over. There are tons of ways in can negatively affect you. Worst of all, it can be used to deny international flights, and in effect your ability to escape the system. Since this is actually run by the government, it creates an avenue for punishing political dissent and control that just doesn't exist with credit scores.
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What the fuck is this nonsense?
Nobody likes credit scores but it's at least marginally financial measurements that are used for financial decisions.
It's regressive, but only because our society is regressive. A middle class person who overspends and doesn't pay their bills on time is probably gonna get treated worse than a poor person who needs groceries and fails to pay their grocery bills on time, yes. But it's still financial.
The poor person isn't being stopped from buying a train ticket. They might not have money to do so, but that's a different societal fuck up.
At least compare apples to apples.
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There are more 'social scores' than just the credit one. The main difference is that in the West it's kept in secret, while China is open about it. Of course, it's also different than American propaganda says.
Arguments can be made both in favor and against such systems or their parts. I think we can all agree that the American one goes far beyond reasonable social utility. The Chinese one too, probably. China may be a lot better than our media tells us, but it's still far from perfect.
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The US has both:
The Chinese Social Credit score is where your Facebook and other social media are scoured by HR before you are hired. But if you are rich, your Facebook posts don't matter because your Dad made you an executive the company.
A Credit Score is pure capitalism. You can be a racist asshole and get the best deal from banks because you have money.
China is no different with their Princeling "Fuerdai".
You say western but I live in the UK and while credit ratings exist here I have never had a reason to care about them. Never even had a credit card. Only time I borrowed money is for my mortgage.
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