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[–] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now I don't know if any of you are history buffs or not...

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

West Germany had one of the largest armies in europe, this isnt a novelty.

[–] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An armed Germany historically in general isn't a good thing, but still fair.

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Neither have most armed western country done any good. German military has one of the most atrocious records of acts against humankind, but it's not that exceptional in comparison to many of its european/western allies.

The need to declare the former axis power as a exceptional evil, is done for the western colonial powers to whitewash their own crimes, erase victims of slavery & colonialism, and make local leftist "feel better" about being british/french/dutch/belgian/american nationalists. Its also why I find it silly to act as if USA/UK rehabilitating nazis/italian & japanese fascist was a great "betrayal" on the "true soul of the nation" or something or that operation paperclip made america somehow fascist - these are just attempts to wiggle out of white guilt and not combat chauvinsim.

[–] ObamaSama@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Well said, other western countries are very quick to point to Nazi Germany as some uniquely evil place but it seems their biggest crime was invading other “civilized” countries. Everything else is just par for the course as an imperial power

[–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Could somebody post a :germany-cool: for me, I don't have hexbear emojis

God eurolibs are so paranoid, why the fuck would russia invade Germany? According to their logic russia is about to collapse in 5 seconds but at this same time is about to invade all of Europe?? Lmao

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

According to their logic russia is about to collapse in 5 seconds but at this same time is about to invade all of Europe??

Something something Umberto Eco

[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Even if Russia were in prime form, the EU still has thrice its population and an economy seven times bigger

[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Tbh I think it could also be a reaction to having the Ukraine situation happen in their backyard while being at the mercy of a progressivly more geriatric and unhinged US leadership as time goes on.

NATO negotiating leverage is decaying, Russia can just switch a lot of Germany's oil off. In a pure power sense I think it's about re-establishing negotiating leverage in the vacuum the US is making.

Which like- you could just put that money into green energy and not have to worry about Russain oil at all and maybe uphold Minsk 2 and all that other shit but the western hegemons NEEED to be in total control or they'll freak out IG.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

In the first instance, the drive will focus on voluntary enlistment, with greater incentives for those who sign up, including a monthly starting salary of €2,600 ($3,000) – an increase of €450 from the current level.

If the new quotas are not met, the government will have the option of mandatory call-ups, where necessary.

The myth of "Voluntary" enlistment: volunteer or get forcefully conscripted

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

only a 20% increase in wage? they want conscription

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Shit I make almost that much sitting at a desk in a cushy office job.

And that's after taxes.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you may be speaking from US salaries. I'm a Spaniard and a rather decent job here (above the mean) runs you, after taxes, 2000€/month.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

After taxes I take home about $2850/month

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago
[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

I feel like European US puppet states always say this but then never truly reindustrialise because they're worried that would start making people have class consciousness again

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

the adolfs must be destroyed before they destroy humanity

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

poor widdle army, so neglected. won't you open your hearts, tighten your belts? just lookathatface

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

Cycle of fascism has shifted by 10 years.

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago
[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago
[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

The only countries that "are about to learn why the US doesn't have healthcare" are in NATO.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since Germany was never de-nazified there's still time. Sorry Hans, keiner doppelbestrafung. :( :(

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just gotta conscript all the nazis and send them to the frontq

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Germany will fight The Spectre until the last man.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

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[–] mx_oceanwater_they_them@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The biggest armies, by raw troop numbers, in NATO:

  1. USA
  2. Turkey
  3. France or ... Germany ? If this goes through?

How will Poland and their (current) right wing government react to such a large army, will they trust them and let them be stationed on Polish soil for a NATO mission? Afaik current relations between Poland and Germany are not very good (border controls disputes).