He gets out of Windows! ππ
Brown suit guy is the type to install third party modding tools and fiddle with regkeys.
Instead of switching to Linux, he breaks windows.
this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2025
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"No, you don't understand, Linux is not desktop ready, I know that because I installed Fedora back in 2008 and it was kinda wonky."
That same user, Oh I need MacOS so I can edit pictures of my kids. I'll have to buy all new hardware, $2000 dollars for a MacBook no problem. When they try Linux, What the heck, everything works except my cheap Wifi card. This is unacceptable, all of Linux has failed and is completely unusable by 100% of the computing world. Buying a 20 dollar USB dongle that is Linux compatible is completely out of the question for them.
It's great that there is overlap in hardware support between the three Oses, but lets not lose perspective. Imagine a Windows user complaining that MacOS had failed because MacOS doesn't have full support for all the hardware in their Windows machine. Or vice versa.
"I'm a busy person with a jobbity job and kids and a mortgage on an iPhone 18 Ultra Plus Air and stuff.
If I have to READ to make anything work, it's not customer ready, and this new thing should take no time at all to completely understand on my part.
It needs to be a perfect 'free Windows clone' before I'll even consider switching from the mega-corporate ecosystem I was coerced into dependency on from the start. If there's one thing I hate more than reading, it's asking anybody for help. Especially my friends. The operating system is the problem."
EDIT (clarity): Just making sure it's clear this is a hyperbolic hypothetical quote based on real things I've read/heard. Trying to be funny. Not my thoughts lol.
If what you want is Windows. Just use windows. For the few times I've had to use Windows over the decades, while frustrating and laborious, I don't expect it to be like my Linux distro. If a Linux distro has the features, utility, software, or ease of use you want. Then by all means, buy a Linux compatible machine. Most distro's install in 5-10 minutes or buy a prebuilt Linux machine. Nobody expects MacOS to be Windows or Windows to be MacOS. And why would you? Just use the OS you need. Imagine expecting MacOS to be a "free Windows clone". I'm sure the MacOS users would be screaming bloody murder if Apple thought that was a good idea.
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On a serious note, having used Linux on and off since the 90s (aah, Slackware, how I miss installing you from floppies ... not), Linux has, IMHO, actually been desktop ready for ages (though definitelly not in the days of Slackware when configuring X was seriously interesting for a geek and pretty much an impossible barrier for everybody else).
The problem have always been applications not having Linux builds, only Windows builds, not the actual desktop Linux distros being an inferior desktop experience than Windows (well, not once Gnome and KDE emerged and made things like configuring your machine possible via GUIs - the age of the RTFF and editing text files in the command line before that wasn't exactly friendly for non-techies).
In other words, from maybe the late 00s onwards the problem were mainly the "networks effects" (in a business sense of "apps are made for Windows because that's were users are, users go for Windows because that's were the apps are) rather than the "desktop" experience.
The almost unassailable advantage of Windows thanks to pretty much just network effects, was something most of us Linux fans were aware since way back.
What happened in the meanwhile to make Linux more appealing "in the Desktop" was mainly on the app availabilty side - OpenOffice (later LibreOffice and derivatives) providing an Office-style suit in Linux, the movement from locally hosted apps to web-hosted apps meaning that a lot of PC usage was really just browser usage, Wine improving by leaps and bounds and making more and more Windows applications run in Linux (most notably and also thanks to DXVK, Games) and so on.
Personally I think Linux has been a superior experience on the server side since the late 90s and, aside for the lack of Linux versions of most commonly used non-OS applications, a superior experience in the desktop since the 00s.
Oddly enough it seems like Microsoft themselves that's working towards breaking the network effect. They are pushing people to use the web versions of their software now and since edge is chromium, their web versions should work in Linux.
In the past Microsoft made most of their money from Windows and Office, but now they make more money off of cloud services so the traditional Windows and Office products are becoming more and more about just driving people to their cloud services. But as they they put more emphasis on cloud services they're actually making it easier for people to dump Windows, and as they make Windows more about marketing their cloud services, they give people more incentive to dump Windows.
Microsoft is digging the grave for windows.
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To make a long post short, windows is shitty but its setup bullshit is very straight forward and clear to deal with, linux is great when it works but its setup bullshit is byzantine as all hell. I got Linux working with only light bullshit on a laptop but just gave up entierly after 3 days of trying to get different distros at different advice working on my desktop.
windows is shitty but its setup bullshit is very straight forward and clear to deal with
Unfortunately, you definitely get a false sense of simplicity when you're essentially forced down a lazy river of:
"Accept all these corporate agreements, make an account with our centralized authority structure, try to deny a litany of invasive ad permissions (you can't turn it all off lol nice try.), enable our one touch AI button, shut up, and click go."
"(Pulsing blue light) We'Re TaKiNg CaRe Of YoU. . ."
Some setup things in Linux can be confusing at first, like how I've agonized over the implications of which file system to use. (Settled on BTRFS for rollbacks, otherwise it doesn't matter for 99.9% of people lol.)
But also I think we're just at a sad point in history where computers are everywhere but people have terrible computer education (self included), and it's left up to private interests who mainly want a cattle-like customer base.
...So everything seems scary and complicated.
I imagine cars would be the same way if we weren't required to test for a license. They're getting that way quickly though, people wanting a "Push ignition and turn off brain" machine that seemingly "just works" until it doesn't and they must take it to Special Wizards. A black box which they ultimately have no control over, but feels "easy".
I think it's because people are forced to use these devices. Like driving, some people enjoy the act of computing. Linux is for those people.
When everybody is forced to use computers every day and most of those computers run something by Apple, Microsoft, or Google, anything else feels like yet another stupid thing to deal with.
TL;DR: Linux respects the user, but respect is built on a two way street of understanding. People hate learning because they're systemically stressed TF out all the time.
Nah linux bullshit is more along the lines of, the install keeps failing and the error message tells you nothing but after a couple of hours of trying different solutions it turns out you needed to re-name one file in the setup to a slightly different name.
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Wine was actually a good tip hahah
Wine?
Now we need a windows compatibility program called "com-plain"
Simplified communication, components, compatibility, whatever makes the backronym work
Whine -> wine -> translation layer
Complain -> com-plain -> Emulation like WSL
alias complain=proton
Component Object Model?
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"I can't switch, there's this one function of this one programme that I may need in the next 50 years."
There's a Linux app for that but the buttons are in different places
"They told me to type words into a black screen with green letters, and the mere suggestion burned down my house and killed my family."
"But I am more than happy to root around the registry and make changes to obscure variables that will be reverted in the next update"
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"There's this obscure function in Excel that I know somebody who knows somebody who used it that won't work in LibreOffice Calc"
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I use Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarch
Also as a side note, i would recommend new Linux users to not learn the command line. Do not touch the command line if you're not sure what you're doing. Like with a knife, it's a powerful tool but you can also do a lot of harm with it if you don't know exactly what you are doing.
Everything that most people need (web browsing, writing emails, watching movies, making presentations) can be done with graphical programs only. You shouldn't ever need to touch the command line.
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Finally swapped to Linux last week and loving it! Kubuntu because I wanted KDE for KZones since I was using FancyZones from PowerToys on Windows. The hardest part was migrating my qBitTorrent, Sonarr/Radarr/Plex because they all point to windows drives. A simple replace in the DB file fixed it, and weβre running smoothly!
Gonna get an auto encode/upload working this weekend, and Iβm so excited. I donβt feel held back like windows, and it doesnβt feel like work configuring it, which I was afraid of.
A few hiccups here and there, but I think of it like growing pains that will eventually go away.
A few hiccups here and there, but I think of it like growing pains that will eventually go away.
Yeah, once you learn the Linux way of doing things or the KDE way of doing something, after some time, it'll just be old hat. Just like how it was learning the Windows or MacOS way of doing things.
Thereβs a βdefenestrateβ joke here somewhere.
theres a plasma window decoration called klassy that has a bunch of presets. all the windows-like presets are called defenestrated (followed by the number of whatever version of windows it is like).
I don't know, the most whining I see here on Lemmy is from Linux people.
I have been online linux mint for a good while now.
Why not all 3? I love complaining.
We had a quip in the bug tracker at a company I worked at:
Man developed speech because of his deep need to complain.
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