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Former Amazon CEO to co-head Project Prometheus with tech executive Vik Bajaj, according to the New York Times

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (4 children)

the water beverage company Liquid Death has a flavor called "Dead Billionaire". There are lots of flavors available on amazon but for some reason that's not one of them.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The only time I ever bought Liquid Death was at a concert. I paid $15 for a can. I don't see any humor here. Literally the only option aside from walking all the way to damn near the parking lot for a water fountain.

Probably the only time I felt more ripped off over water was when I willingly spent nearly that much for Gillywater at Universal Studios. Its just regular bottled water. Nothing special at all. At least those round coke bottles at Hollywood Studios were sorta novel.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

at a concert

There's your problem. It doesn't matter if you're buying Dasani or Aquafina or Arizona Tea. Venues have captive audiences and jack up the prices because they can.

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't liquor licences in your country require serving water?

In (all?) of Australia to have a liquor licence requires you also serve free water. That can be tap water, but it has to be available as easily as the alcohol. Typically from a bartender, waiter etc depending on the establishment providing it for you.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Country?

This is America.

Liquor licenses are handled by the state or municipality.

At this particular venue (Xfinity Center)...no, I don't think so. Most of the vendors that are around are in carts with just beer, water, hard seltzer...maybe a canned cocktail or wine cooler.

Maybe at the counter-service vendors, where you could get mixed drinks. Possibly.

They do have water bottle stations though. And you can bring in one empty reusable bottle or one factory-sealed water bottle upto 1 gallon.

Who tf thinks to bring water to a concert tho. You pregame in the parking lot and after your second or third $30 beer...then you realize you really need a water.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So vendors are gouging people and you blame the manufacturer? That is funny. $15 would buy you a 12 pack of tall boys and you’d get change back. Ffs

Who tf thinks to bring water to a concert tho.

Well, you. Now. For one.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

The only reason I'm gonna be smart enough to bring water to concerts is because I read this thread.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I understand "eat the rich", but I have no desire to drink the rich.

I will, however, pour them out on my plants.

It's what the plants crave.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago

They definitely have electrolytes -- there's no electrolyte a billionaire can't afford.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

It's a reference to Arnold Palmer, whose estate tried (or threatened?) to sue them after they used the name "Armless Palmer" for a flavor.

Of course other billionaires would be thin-skinned enough to feel offended by that...

[–] dil@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sure just put the ceo of liquid death and his buddy pasqal on their too, making water cost more than redbulls at festivals, overselling and overcrowding til ppl get crowdcrushed while lying on social media, meanwhile theres hella videos from ppl there always saying otherwise

[–] dil@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

ofc theyd try to profit off that too, not suprised, liquid death is the only water available, everyone knows it, no one ever thought it was beer, that was just a fun marketing lie and excuse to take away refillable water bottles with caps and to charge 5$ per water

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As of June 2025, Mike Cessario’s estimated net worth is around $80–100 million.

The CEO is wealthy, sure, but very far away from being a billionaire.

I've occasionally bought liquid death at my local beer distributor for parties, and it's a bit expensive but not crazy. Pretty much every drink at a festival is incredibly overpriced - that markup is usually going to the vendors selling it and the venue, not the manufacturer.

[–] dil@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago

But they specifically did it so they could overcharge for water while claiming it looks like beer, water bottles were cheaper and you can refill them, put the cap on and hold it on your pocket, these cant be pocketed and are given opened often

[–] ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

50$ he’s going to push for some life extension tech research

[–] SomethingWentWrong@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The name prometheus is already in use by an open source monitoring project:

https://prometheus.io/

They are both in the computer field so there is some chance for confusion. Especially if the Prometheus monitoring project has some AI capabilities then that would strengthen the case for a trademark naming conflict.

Apple Inc, the computer company, had to settle and pay Apple Corps (the Beatles record label) money to settle trademark rights for the Apple name when Apple got into music business:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Bezos sues the prometheus project to change their name due to trademark infringement or something...

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

AI would help to account for the memory footprint of Prometheus monitoring... but no. Not yet (I've used it for 7+ yrs at this point).

However theres also the NASA "Project Prometheus" which also predates this, more closely matches the name, but sadly also doesn't have AI: found here

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

these are in separate industries, though. apple had to settle because they started apple music which tacitly operated in the exact same sector of the economy as a record label. just because two things have to do with computers doesn’t mean they’re both in the “computer field”.

for example, if apple had started selling pianos like yamaha in the mid 2000s instead of opening an in-house music label they’d still be in the “music field” but wouldn’t have had to settle with apple corps because there’s not a reasonable argument that consumers would confuse the two companies just based off the semantic “music” connection. same here. an AI startup isn’t at risk of violating the brand trademark of an open source monitoring project in basically any western legal framework. if the world worked the way you’re saying then a lot of brands wouldn’t exist due to being “in the same field”.

this startup likely will avoid trademark litigation based on that, despite the companies probably being in the same/similar classes. a judge isn’t going to do anything on these grounds.

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man. He was cast into the bowels of the earth and pecked by birds.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

*gift of fire *tied to a mountain *has his liver eaten by an eagle

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't know why but miss usng mythos so bad just grinds my gears.

Like are you, one of the most powerful beings in the world, really stealing fire and giving it to mankind risking yourself in the process? Does any of that sound like what he's fucking doing? Seriously.

Be like me running a mom and pop plumbing company in the valley name Zeus.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He should have gone with Colossus. There was a great 1970 scifi film named that about AI and... oh no, never mind.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I would have voted for Icarus.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

Project Prometheus

That's some Deus Ex naming shit.

[–] 721_bipsty@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol, image preview looks like 2 minutes of hate in 1984

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

i assumed that was intentional

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You gotta respect the man for how much he seems to relish in being pure evil. Prometheus like the movie, about the bald dudes who created life? And the ultimate artificial lifeform as a weapon that wiped em all out in the end? That's a masterclass in Saturday morning ass villainy this Jeff practices.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You... do know the name comes from Greek mythology and not that movie? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

It is the god that stole fire from the gods and gave it to humanity. A much more favourable view on the name. Sorry, I am just really concerned that someone thinks of that movie first when hearing the name.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Fair play, TIL.

I figured it was something from Greek mythology (probably), but I don't have that particular kind of special interest so I never looked into it.

As to your concern I imagine the vast majority know of it from the movie, not an obscure greek myth. Like surely you understand that's pretty niche compared to a multimillion dollar blockbuster?

EDIT: why am I downvoted for admitting I didn't know something? Not knowing something and admitting it, even being proud of having the opportunity to learn something new is always a good thing. It is something we should encourage in people. Fucking dotworld I swear man.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’re good. I upvoted. People downvoting are leery of anti-intellectualism (and not without good reason).

But I don’t see that in your comment. You simply didn’t know something, and you didn’t get mad when corrected. You acknowledged you just didn’t know yet.

In addition, your guess that the majority who recognize the name associate it with something from pop culture rather than classical mythology is likely accurate. Those who were taught this in school, or who had the resources at hand to teach themselves — public libraries, internet access, free time, etc — often forget that in most of the world knowledge remains a privilege, whereas the right to pay for entertainment is nearly always guaranteed.

If you’d like to read some of these stories, along with commentary about them, I would recommend A Guide to Mythology by Helen Clark, which is public domain and thus free. You can listen to it for free as well.

Edit: add links and additional resources

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thank you! And yeah you said it well.

I might check it out at some point, but I'm not really into mythology tbh, I think the only thing remotely close to that that I've ever consumed is some of the videos from Overly Sarcastic Productions on YT.

I also wonder where (if anywhere) they teach classical greek myths at school. The literature classes we had in high school - other than Shakespeare - mostly focused on modern period literature from the 19th century onwards (with the most recent book probably being To Kill A Mockingbird ofc and the earliest Silas Marner)

I guess that's kinda like what's particularly astounding to me about the downvotes. This is not even a matter of privilege and resources, it's simply a matter of: Why would you expect anyone to go out of their way to look up fairly obscure greek myths, unless they were specifically into fairly obscure greek myths? And I already think considering I actively engage with content about mythology even rarely as it may be I imagine most people know much less.

Heck I had the lucky opportunity for the joy of explaining The Illiad and The Odyssey to my girlfriend recently, who had literally no clue what those even were or that they existed.

Right now I'm really into space stuff. It's extremely unlikely that if I asked any random person, including myself from like slightly over a week ago, what ORB RATE and INRTL positions on the FDAI switch on Panel 13 do in the Apollo CSM, that they would know what the heck I'm talking about. So I would never make that assumption. It's just kinda baffling to do so.

We cannot hate on people for not knowing what is unreasonable for anyone but an enthusiast to know. That in itself is refusing to think properly, it is anti-intellectualism, plain and simple. "Ooga Grog no know thing, means Grog bad!" is an insane way to operate, it's reeks of a regressive and unsystemic view of the world.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Haha, I see where you’re coming from. It’s a fairly old and ongoing debate: the importance of classical humanities in the curricula of primary and secondary education. To illustrate, at one point children were not only taught literature from the Greco-Roman period, but also the languages they were written in.

In fact, that’s one of the key reasons for all the institutional Greek and Latin usage you see in higher ed. That was the tradition. These were languages only the educated knew. The effects of that on society were mixed, in my opinion. Fast-forwarding to today, the recent trend has been to prioritize knowledge more relevant to the modern era, including STEM subjects and practical trade-related skills.

That’s the reason for the lingering notion, among older generations especially, that classical works are foundational knowledge, a common intellectual inheritance that everyone should know. While I’m more used to thinking this way, and can probably make some convincing arguments for it, I recognize that in many ways and for many individuals, it fails the test of relevance. So maybe it really is for the best that it’s only taught in the optional extension of higher ed.

Yes, zero expectation from me to read that book, but if you ever become curious, mythologies are often short, fun, and memorable stories to read. And once familiar with them, you’ll see references to them basically everywhere, including the names of blockbuster films and spaceships, like the Apollo.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Your words make my heart bleed.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can understand, but really, though? Why would you expect anyone to know something so niche?

You should be grateful I'm actually happy to learn about it, and that you had the opportunity to tell me about it, spreading knowledge, especially on something as cool as classical literature and history is a good thing.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah probably not the mythological Prometheus that the movie was named after.

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He look like Dr. Evil, too, with those eyes.

At least Dr. Evil listened to his cronies and acknowledged he was out of touch with his initial low-ball demands.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The wax model of Dr. Evil

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This picture looks like someone is going to throw a hammer through the picture

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

It reminds me of something...can't quite tell what.

Maybe the conference room in The Lawnmower Man?

Maybe V for Vendetta? Or 1984?

Idk, but either way it's not a good look for him.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

With how much external funding gets shoved into AI startups these days, I feel like 90% of AI startups are basically just a pump and dump with extra steps and targeted at investors. He's probably already gotten millions in investments already just by this announcement.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

but Project Prometheus has already hired 100 employees, poaching several from firms like OpenAI, DeepMind and Meta, according to the Times.

I think that one problem with all this spending is that there are only so many people with relevant experience in the area. If wages are high enough, the market will send more over time, but that isn't instantaneous.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Oh good we need more AI projects right now

[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

There are too few AI startups right now, apparently 🤔