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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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What if saving our lives weren't profitable? Hmmm.

Studies like this are why economists are up there with chiropractors and naturopaths. They are comparing the opportunity costs of a omnicidal path during the 6th great mass extinction vs a path of a viable humanity.

The tortured logic of economists is a big reason why I don't think we're going to make it.

[โ€“] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

It is both not useful and false to model GDP under global warming.

Higher insurance, higher HVAC energy consumption, higher food water and natural fiber prices, and higher reconstruction activity after floods, storms, forest fires all increase GDP. GDP doesn't care if you are spending more to survive or buying a bigger yacht.

Death from disasters, heat, or unaffordable cost of living, and lower property values from both insurance costs and drought driven poor agriculture productivity is a loss in real wealth, where life/health is included in wealth.

Cost of global warming is only the latter, and cost of survival.