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Sorry for the rant, I don't know if it belongs here, I'm new. But I am just super disappointed and want to maybe help people in the future experiencing something similar so we can cope together.

So, a few days ago, one of my random alt accounts on Reddit gets sitewide banned for harassment because I called someone dumb in the comments (literally no more than that) as a joke on a shitpost a few years ago. I laugh the random account ban off and delete the account and return to my normal Redditing.

Now, I've been a daily commenter and poster on Reddit for several years at this point. You could call it addiction. But I also use it for updates and questions at my local university, so it's also made its way into my personal life, too.

So, after the ban, I figured I was fine and I could continue to use one of my many other accounts. I was wrong.

Nope. A few hours later, ALL of my accounts over the last decade or so get permanently banned for ban evasion. I did not know Reddit bans were global like that. So, obviously I try to appeal the bullshit original ban, but I DELETED the account so I couldn't.

I try to appeal on the alts, but I get the same generic "your request has been denied" message. Over and over again across all of them, same message.

So, I figure that they banned me for having my other accounts on the same device. Really shitty all my accounts were gone but I was reluctantly fine to start over by removing them all and deleting the app.

Those accounts got banned too.

Okay, looks like it's by IP and device. Cool. I'll... use the browser version on Brave and use a VPN when I want to post on Reddit. Super inconvenient but I'll do what I have to do.

All accounts created or largely used on a VPN get shadow banned and appeals are ignored.

Okay, VPNs don't work. I'll delete all my account info on all my devices, reset my router to change my IP, use a new device, and not sign into any accounts other than Reddit and that should be good!

It works for a few hours. Perfectly fine. But, as I scroll more and more, I start to see communities that I recognize from my old accounts. No big deal, they probably recommend those communities to a lot of new users.

But, as I scrolled more and more, even smaller communities showed up that I used. Smaller, smaller, and even smaller, until eventually these were subs under 5k members even though I didn't interact with he vast majority. They caught me, again, on a brand new device with a different IP.

Well fuck. Reddit is going to be the biggest inconvenience ever to use again. But I had one last trick up my sleeve.

A special VPN that uses the network of its users to reroute internet so websites are extremely unlikely to ban each individual server. A fucking virtual linux machine. Brave browser with the most secure settings.

It went well for longer this time, a few days, but the same Orwellian shit happened. More and more tiny subs until I saw ones with mere single digit upvotes on all the posts on subs with just a few thousand members. And then, just a day or two after my account creation, boom. Permanent ban there, too.

There is literally nothing you can do to get back on Reddit if you're banned and want to use it in even a slightly normal way. I have submitted an appeal on the reddithelp form, but this is also extremely unlikely to be accepted even though the ban was bullshit; they haven't responded yet. I don't think I can ever use Reddit again because their system uses the most advanced AI to detect evaders I have ever seen. They're definitely spending tens of millions monthly on computer costs and research SOLELY to catch evaders and it fucking works.

So, I guess I'm a Lemming from now on. Super upset, Lemmy doesn't have subs for my favourite games and even the more popular games are super inactive. But, there is nothing I can do. Sorry for the rant but I know I started reading ban posts like these for hours when I first got banned, so I hope I can help people in the future realize they're completely done for unless their appeal gets accepted.

TL;DR: Even with a completely unrelated device, IP, and a virtual machine, Reddit's AI will detect what types of posts you like until they are slightly confident it's you. Then, permanent ban. You cannot avoid this. I'm super bummed out.

Edit: For peoples who have had site-wide bans doomscrolling about it in the future like I was, I'm not saying evading a ban is impossible. If you really want to get back on don't give up hope, I'm just saying it's going to be very difficult. But definitely consider contributing to the awesome Lemmy community. I know it's missing a lot, but it does help scratch the itch. I recommend the Blorp app as it's the most similar to Reddit's UI.

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[–] PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

This is a fairly interesting story, how do they manage to identify you with (high enough) certainty. People should shudder at the possibilities here. Maybe they track your screen resolution mouse-movement speed and even typing anomalies to detect you.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Be the change that you want to see on Lemmy. Make or participate in a community if you want it here.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Let me give you my experience with your suggestion. Using reddit for over 10 years. Been through 3 site wide bans and 3 reinstatements all with the same account. During my last site wide ban I really tried to love Lemmy. I can understand less users and therefore less comments and posts. But in my opinion the vibe was worse than reddit. The vibe meaning the majority of us using this platform think THIS WAY and if you in anyway disagree than you are a bad person. I still like Lemmy but I restrict myself to just a handful of groups. In my opinion there are no civil open discussion groups on reddit. And it's the same with Lemmy. The difference is that reddit has a flair policy for some groups that protects groups from the brigading just because you have a different opinion.

[–] nomorebillboards@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

True. And we need to stop bullshit like this.

Imagine if in the future, a company like Tencent managed to buy all the big social medias, or even if all the big social medias teamed up to ban stuff that goes against an agenda.

The future equivalents (or maybe the same as the ones we have now) of Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, Discord, Youtube, Google, etc. could share their moderation tactics and ban anyone that speaks badly about whatever agenda they have.

Then, the Orwellian tech giants could use lightweight AI to detect evasion like I experienced on Reddit. No matter what, where, or how, they would ALWAYS be able to link a user to a banned user within hours or days no matter how little IP or fingerprint similarities they were JUST BY USAGE PATTERNS.

This is fucking creepy and insane. The future we are heading towards does not look bright when it comes to surveillance.

Although I'm reluctant to use Lemmy because of its tiny (but not nonexistent) size, I do think I will create some small communities similar to the ones on Reddit that I miss even if I'm the only one there.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Frankly, I don't understand why people keep insisting on using that cancer site. The Reddit many of us knew and once loved is gone. It is now just another right wing propaganda machine. Sad, but that's the way it is.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

You are going about it the wrong way. The ban evasion is not as sophisticated as you make it out to be. Put a VPN or mobile data and create an account with a normal email. Use a normal web browser like firefox. Thats all. Ive been banned like 60+ times. Once you make the account dont comment for a few days and ease into it.

Using tor, vpns, etc makes you stick out. Commenting a ton and being super active makes you stick out. They aren't detecting that it was YOU they banned they are just banning you because you are acting suspicious and botlike.

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 8 points 4 days ago

I wonder how many calories your brain burned trying to get back into the crackhouse that is Reddit. I'm impressed by the sheer height of that wall of text alone.

TLDR; tho

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Reddit banned my indie game studio account because my coworker logged in on the same computer I was using to comment on our latest trailer.

They said I was switching accounts to boost my post. Then banned my company account, and all the accounts for all my employees.

The more you look into Reddits community rules, the more generic they become so they can make up any excuse to ban you.

There's a currency subreddit that also banned an alt I created years ago for me saying the word "crypto" despite that not at all being listed in their rules. I asked a mod why, and his response was that it was considered "vulgar" language.

So yeah. Reddit will just ban you for any reason, even if you are an active community member or contributer. The site will be unusable in 5 years as the CEO will have IPOd it for max profit and left by then.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Blorp dev here. Welcome to Lemmy! Let me know if there is anything I can do to improve your experience. PieFed is also worth checking out. You’ll see all the same content as Lemmy, and PieFed has post flairs. Blorp lets you login to PieFed and Lemmy at the same time.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Reddit doesn't want you. They want bots -- lots of bots -- and bland people who will absorb what the bots tell them. Reddit thinks it will make money that way. Maybe they're right, who knows? All I know is they don't want us there.

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[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

I had all that happen. The initial ban was from AI for inciting violence when discussing JiuJitsu technique.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Welcome!

After the detox period, it's quite nice here.

Hope you're going to find, and create (you'll be amazed how easy it is to pop up communities here, and there is no permanan possible) your future favourite communities here!

Cheers

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reddit’s AI will detect what types of posts you like until they are slightly confident it’s you. Then, permanent ban.

This seems extremely unlikely. There is most likely another explanation for what you experienced.

[–] daisykutter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'll take Things that make your fingerprint unique, Alex:

  • Cookies
  • Rare browsers
  • Local/Session storage/IndexedDB
  • Browser extensions
  • Your mouse patterns
  • Your browser's timezone
  • Your browser canvas
  • Other fingerprint techniques...

Chameleon is a nice browser extension (it does some nasty things on sites that do try to assert that you are human, or that is it truly you, and you can get banned or blocked so use it with that in mind) that tries to hide some of those things, but maybe they look for it in your browser and default to other techniques... I understand this has been son effort on your part and that some of the things I listed do not apply to you in your last attempts, but maybe some of the others do. Or maybe this is a signal for you to leave that cesspool, maybe.

If you want to see how big your fingerprint can be: https://amiunique.org/

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

hey that really worked. Great link

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same thing happened to me (shortly before the IPO, of course). Reddit had been enshittifying for years, and the blanket ban was the nudge I needed to stop giving a fuck about it anymore.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Being banned from reddit was a huge leap for my mental help. Glad they did me the service

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I got permabanned for reporting someone else for calling me slurs and threatening me. My appeal was rejected. Everyone in my household was also banned alongside me.

Since then, I’ve moved to a different country and gotten all new devices. I tried making another account to connect with people in the new area, using a new email address. A few hours later, before I’d made any posts, comments or joined any of my old subs, I was permabanned again for ban evasion. (I had, in fact, only visited subs I’d never been to before, where the majority of posts were even in a different language from what my original account viewed…)

I honestly have no idea how they tracked me, or if that’s what actually happened. (Maybe they have some AI that autobans a portion of new accounts now, just in case?)

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[–] yoyoyopo5@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

VPN accounts typically get shadowbanned quickly in my experience. You need residential proxies. There’s also a warm up period for accounts where they are soft locked out of certain features like modmail, commenting, creating a community, etc. You won’t be told of these limitations, simply shadowbanned if you try to use them.

I’m not sure about Reddit’s use of device fingerprinting or user behavior heuristics when it comes to detecting evasion.

We are at war. I create accounts daily to send out modmail within my rights. We shouldn’t let admins or even mods sleep. I found it funny one time they blackholed an account so hard it couldn’t even be logged into anymore, then banned the entire username prefix “yoyoyopo” all at once, thinking it would stop me.

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We are at war.

Are you ok?

We shouldn’t let admins or even mods sleep.

Are you opposed to all content moderation or just reddit specific implementation?

one time they blackholed an account so hard it couldn’t even be logged into anymore

Isn't that just a regular ban?

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[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't even bother, I used the site for 15 years mostly just answering software and tech questions and talking about music gear and they banned me in seconds for one anti trump comment earlier this year. It's fucked. Now I wish I would have stopped using it when they allowed The_Donald subreddit to fester on their site.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

when r/technology was getting astroturfed with trump news i was commenting as other people are, about antitrump stuff, temp ban. then suddenly all old accounts were hit with the same permaban. they also fish out old accounts you might not have used in while and ban those, if at any time(on the same device or ip address) you commented on a sub you were banned in.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Reddit died for me on the day that they banned me within minutes for saying I should be allowed to punch Nazis, you know in an Indiana Jones kind of way. Or a Captain America way if you prefer. I'm pretty sure the thread had something to do with Captain America so it was relevant

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[–] Ethel@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

The Reddit of old is long gone. The Mods on most subs are petulant cellar-dwellers. Censorship is off the charts. No thanks.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

Start your own instances for those that dont exist, we will grow slowly !

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

If you have to go back for the user base, use a fresh Firefox profile with no extensions except uBlock Origin and Jshelter then combine that with a mobile hotspot without a VPN.

Also, when you create an account, do not use the sign up button in the top right. Instead click a random Reddit thread on Google, then click reply on a random comment and then create the account.

DO NOT use your main email (including Gmail's +1 or exam.ple variants) or phone number.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Did you vape your browser cache? Take anti browser fingerprinting steps? So how do you think they're identifying you?

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 9 points 5 days ago

vape your browser cache

wow browsers can blow dank clouds now? broooo.

Sorry, I had to :P

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 5 days ago

They banned my alts for just lurking. I never commented a thing. All i ever did was upvote and bookmark on VPN and use the account to access other sites. Such bs

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 5 points 4 days ago

even the more popular games are super inactive.

Due to the lower userbase, activity happens in more generic communities.

There's

Then genre communities

It's obviously not as busy as Reddit, but it's still a busy enough place.

!newcomers@piefed.zip if you have questions

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

vpn isnt going to work anymore, reddit bans most major vpns in general. plus they have definitely increased thier ban evasion detection, besides that they are looking for keywords they deemed doesnt fit the sites narrative, instant delete, or ban.

thier methods of detection usually is looking at your IP, device, its components, the browser, your screen resolution, time and date, fingerprinting. for any similarity.

more advanced methods if you are trying to use other methods IP, like datacenter, they will block of flag the most commonly abused IP datacenters, that uses to rotate around. VPN are so easily flagged by reddit its guaranteed a ban. they will also target genuine behaviour, if your on reddit logged in, are you acting human; posting too fast, or spaamming the same words, style of writing. old inactive accounts and new accounts are extremely susceptible to this type of monitoring.

reddits pratically mostly spam/bots now anyways, they purged way too many users.

the true ban evaders are using paid methods, plus new devices and rotating IP that isnt vpn(mostly mobile proxies), and they are usually using hundreds if not thousands of account at once, and they use this method to market OF or some kind of business they are running, so they can afford it

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

This shit is super dystopian.

The data also exists in Lemmy to auto IP ban and also attach your IP and MAC to a cookie.

Same as reddit.

One day, someone will make a community here that is moderated like that.

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You are still logged in somewhere. You just need a new IP. Everything after that is wrong.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

You're an AI

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