We keep handing Dems every win we can, and they keep squandering it.
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Some are taking those wins and passing progressives policies at the state level, but I completely agree regarding Dems in the Federal Senate.
Zack is trump and ally is the GOP as a whole
I bet Ally has a better Trump though.
really big shoes
It's not squandering when it's done deliberately.
Well, wins except for, like, president and congress and a bunch of stuff. There we told them we couldn't be bothered.
That was after giving them the win with Biden, and letting them squander that too, but I getcha.
Yeah to be fair Utah is already so gerrymandered it won't make much difference.
Picking up a seat is a good thing. The house is tight.
Oh agreed completely, I'm just cynical about Utah politics from living here so many years.
Well, if means anything, cutting Salt Lake dems out will only make the new conservative district less moderate. So you’ve got more polarization to look forward to.
Uh, yeah, and the judge agreed and changed that?
You misunderstand, it is already massively gerrymandered and I'm certainly glad it's not getting worse, but it's already a very broken state politically.
So you're talking about other maps, probably for state-level races? I guess, but for those who live in the 49 states other than Utah this is literally the only map that can affect things outside of Utah by flipping a seat in the US house. Everything else is either a statewide election, or only affects Utah politics.
Utah feels like one of those slept on states that could go Blue. When I was traveling through SLC, it felt no different to me compared to other big PNW cities.
I’m still half tempted to move there just for how beautiful the towns and views are out there.
for all the wierdness of mormanism they do seem to embrace the actual message of jesus in terms of kindness. I could totally see maga driving them away.
This is very true. By no means are they perfect and they still stick a bit too hard to voting for any Republican candidate but they do dislike Trump's schtick more than most.
Honestly anyone devout of any religion, even if they are ultraconservative, should be having massive alarm bells as ice not allowing clergy to minister to people being held. Im not sure if that is being done anywhere else besides chicago but its unheard of here and certainly pissing people off.
as ice now allowing clergy to minister to people being held
Was this meant to say "not allowing"?
yes. will edit. I don't like to normally edit my mistakes but in this case its an important distinction.
Very true about the SLC area, but they've done a very good job of keeping the rest of the state pointed in a... different direction.
That makes a lot of sense.
If progressive policy can just be sold to the people in Mormon Church I could see a swing. It’s not like their own internal policies don’t line up pretty one-to-one with progressive goals for helping each other.
The only issue I see is just that they want their followers to be looking at the Mormon Church as the provider, rather than the state. The state could easily subsidize residents, which would in-turn would free up some of the financial burdens of the Mormon Church, but who knows if they could be convinced that it’s a win-win for everyone.
Not on MY Watch!
-Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries!
Schumer has no authority in Utah, he’s in the US Senate.
This is entirely a Utah state issue.