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The capitulation of Senate Democrats in ending the government shutdown without healthcare concessions has sparked outrage. Calls for new leadership and primary challenges are growing. The fight for a Democratic Party that truly fights back continues.

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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 98 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Like 90% of the Dems in Congress need to go. Replacing Schumer will be a start but not nearly enough.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

and all of the republicans cow-toeing to dear leader

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] shplane@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s actually camel-toeing

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Moose knuckle

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Do you think there are Republicans that don't need to get removed?

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Recall them all, reject dem establishment figures in primaries, and call them up to tell them what you think of this cowardly maneuver. Fucking corpo shills.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Perhaps we've ended up where they're all corporate shills because if you aren't a corporate shill and you can make change happen, you end up dead.

Edit: Or they attempt to denaturalize and deport you...first

Edit: To be clear, i fear for Zohran Mamdani's life if this stupid deportation thing fails.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Could you imagine a government with 30% of the politicians being Independent like Bernie? The corporations wouldnt know who to bribe, politicians would actually need to worry about what voters think. 100% Independent would be horrific for corporations ... and exactly how the founding fathers designed the constitution.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

James Madison’s entire reason for creating the Senate was to protect the “opulent minority” (landholders) from the majority (everyone else). The constitution was always designed to protect capital as its prime directive.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if independents are so great what happened to Anus King?

edit: not a typo, his name is Anus now.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Or they'd throw even more money at them

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I knew Schumer was gonna fuck it up somehow. The last few days I was finally starting to get a little hope he grew a spine and actually listened to DNC constituents only to have this blow up. We gave up effective air traffic, SNAP benefits, furloughed and laid off government workers for nothing in return after all these weeks. If his constituents don't demand a new rep after this then what hope do we have in the Senate for the foreseeable future?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 26 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

US would do well to support third party candidates while building the vanguard.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The only path to effective opposition in the United States is through the destruction of the Democrat party. It can't be reformed.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has been before. Many, many times.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. Ideological flip. Democrats and Republicans were firmly on opposite side of ideological divide before they switched.

Third party and independents used to be more prominent in congress and senate up until the early 20th century. I think mass corporate media brainwashed people to think within allowable and carefully curated discourse that they can only elect Democrats or Republicans. Hence, manufactured consent.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

And yet, how? This is a problem that's older than most of us.

I'm tired of hearing people say what needs to happen like they've just rubbed a magic lamp. The reality is that they're are still scores of people okay with this shit.

The best we can do at this stage is get a progressive to start leading them. I don't know if we'll get this, but people are finally very angry at these clowns, so maybe.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The hateful 8

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not enough folks know about referendums, and all the cool things they can do.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder what he got as a kickback. He does a lot of surrendering these days.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

My guess is more bombs for Israel.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck chuck the Cuck

Kick his ass out!

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

So… chuck Chuck?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

These decrepit motherfuckers are just an extension of the Democratic party and they're doing exactly what they're supposed to. We need to abandon this party and commit to building a new one - even if it means Republicans win some more elections for a cycle or two.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

The clueless idiot gene runs in the family.

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