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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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TOLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) - A local police chief who shot two Boston Terriers after he says they attacked him during a walk is now suing the dog owners.

Court filings show Blissfield Police Chief Dale Greenleaf is suing the family that owns the dogs involved in the incident. He’s seeking damages, claiming the owners negligently left a gate open let the dogs get out and failed to supervise them. One of the dogs died and the other was hospitalized with serious injuries.

Police looked at Greenleaf’s injuries and did not find puncture marks, but found what appeared to be teeth abrasions on his stomach and right leg.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

two Boston Terriers

Fucking coward.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

What a poor example of a human being. Oh, he's a police chief...that tracks.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

Oh NO! Thoughts and Prayers 🙏 For the Police Officer who Opened FIRE on Two small family Dogs!

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 1 week ago

Police looked at Greenleaf’s injuries and did not find puncture marks, but found what appeared to be teeth abrasions on his stomach and right leg.

Probably just stretch marks, it isn't like the police are medical professionals.

the dogs in the picture? So scary.

[–] alastel@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Absolute fucking piece of shit of a pathetic excuse for a human being. I have two boston terriers, they can, at most, "pinch" you if they're agressive, especially through clothes. No way in hell a grown ass pig can justify shooting at small dogs like that as proportionate to anything. And suing the victims then? What kind of sadistic harassment is this?

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

What a piece of shit!

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe the chief should make the world a better place and shoot himself instead.

Shoot at my dogs, one of us will be dead very soon.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Dale Gribbleaf?