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Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

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[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This shit started to pop up in Europe. I only tip when the service was above average. And a tip is 5 bucks on top of a 100 CHF meal.

Now they ask for tips at food trucks. Yes 0 is the appropriate tip for that.

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[–] snoopfrog@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's only one thing I still do that requires tipping, and that's because I want to get tattoos. After I started seeing tipping screens at restaurants where I pick up my food at the counter, I stopped eating out entirely. I don't even do fast food. I'm tired of trying to remember or decipher what is socially expected and am just done participating in that system. Just pay people a living wage, charge what you need to charge for that, and if you're offering a worthwhile service, you'll be fine.

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[–] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I've contemplated not tipping altogether, already thought it was stupid. Your paycheck should not depend on someone's charity.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

Versus how is always worked before?

Because there is consensus on that, it was a very straightfor rule.

The tip was a private transaction between a customer and an employee who went above and beyond the service that the employees' boss require them to do, to perform the job to the customer's satisfaction.

It had nothing to do with the boss or the company they were working for (no tipping automation on the registers, etc.).

And it wasn't ever used in lieu of the employee receiving enough of an income at the company they worked at.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

And it wasn't ever used in lieu of the employee receiving enough of an income at the company they worked at.

Unfortunately that is not true. Restaurants in most states in the US have a law that allows employers to pay tipped employees a much lower wage (about 2 bucks an hour) with the expectation that tips will bring them back up to minimum wage or higher.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Want to win governor? Run on outlawing tipping. Just pay a fair wage.

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

"Etiquette expert" whatd do they do? Just going about yelling at people for doing things a different way. "YOURE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOUR PINKY UP WHILE DRINKING TEA!!!"

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I find it annoying to see the option everywhere, but I have continued to just tip on the things I always have at the % I always used. I hate the recommended amount with a passion... the last time I saw it it took the entire order amount and recommended % amounts where based off that. I have never tipped on total, why would after taxes be part of the tip %? Also I have heard mixed things about this but beer and mixed drinks are also removed as well before calculating the total for tipping. I at least will add a dollar for each drink since it's what I would tip if I was at the bar.

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

The only time I'd tip is for delivery. I don't even count it as a tip, I consider it a "don't spit in my food" tax.

[–] TH1NKTHRICE@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Try this on for size: Tipping is a Legacy of Slavery

This opinion by Michelle Alexander always stuck with me.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (12 children)

it's not your waiter's fault that they're stuck in a scam on the scale of a whole culture

[–] Taringano@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (20 children)
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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This seems to be more of a United States issue rather than a Western issue. In Canada, we didn't start tipping businesses all of a sudden that were never part of tipping culture. We always tipped delivery drivers, and servers, and bartenders, and hairstylists, and uber drivers. I've never seen a tip screen on a McDonalds or Wendys or Popeyes debit machine. I've never seen a tip screen on a retail debit machine. What the hell is going on in the US with tipping? What changed?

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