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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 145 points 2 months ago (6 children)

All of fuck sticks in uniform deserve a year's jail time at a minimum. Assaulting peaceful protesters? Fuck that.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 110 points 2 months ago

They are traitors to the people/country. Basically the 'domestic terrorists' they keep talking about. They deserve way more than 1 year.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 118 points 2 months ago (9 children)

As someone who lives near Portland, the fact that Portland police even testified about excessive force means it's bad.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean, they clearly just tackle a guy from behind out of nowhere. A guy who's minding his own businesses and just standing there in the least threatening manner possible.

Also very revealing that they specifically target the guy wearing hippie-looking clothes, most likely because they associate that with left wing ideology and their remit is to remove "undesirables" regardless of whether or not they're a threat to anyone.

So yeah, this is so blatant that it's frankly not surprising that even the fascist PPD consider it beyond the pale/giving away the game.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They'd lose their minds at Becky's Drive-in. During the labor day movie marathon, they sell tie-dyed t-shirts. Tons of people are wearing them. They wouldn't be able to figure out whose rights to violate first.

I'm kidding of course. They'd be outnumbered, so they'd just run away.

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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Seriously, the whole reason the right is obsessed with Portland now is that the Portland police used incredible levels of excessive force to put down BLM protests. And since they believe the police are always in the right, then Portland must be a hellhole. I used to live in one of the smaller towns in Oregon and mentioning that I went up to Portland for a day would typically result in someone telling me I was lucky I wasn't shot. Never mind that the PPB is so brutal that the federal government sued them for excessive force back in 2012. To unfortunately minimal effect. That you can be too brutal for Portland police is just insane.

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[–] chirospasm@lemmy.ml 84 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I am just doing my job!"

Yes, and we can see what your job is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't a valid defense at Nuremburg. Won't be a valid defense now.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (7 children)

75 million people died to make the Nuremberg trials possible. Facists don’t leave without a fight

[–] alpha1beta@piefed.social 21 points 2 months ago

that's why this time around, there can be no mercy. All of them must hang. The precedent must be set so these trash don't try it again in 70 years.

[–] Sightline@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

And only 200 were tried.

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[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago

Holy shit. I don’t know what I was expecting, but it wasn’t that. WOW. Fuckers.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is fucking wild we've all lived long enough to see the POLICE start to speak out against authoritarianism.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

"They're ruining it for us!"

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago (3 children)

[serious question]

What is the government suggesting is the justification for this particular abuse of power?

I know it's bullshit. I'm just curious what bullshit they're using for this.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

I'll take a whack at it: "Officer safety."

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The government wants to squeeze and provoke violent acts so they can squeeze more.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's going to be the justification they use in court.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 6 points 2 months ago

If it's the current SCOTUS he can use his South Park quote, "Hey guy! I'm Trump!". And be released.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

"Immigrants are violent criminals and we need to deport them at all costs"

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i hope i live long enough to see these fucks lined up against A wall by fellow citizens, and taught a very short lesson in antifa justice

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This whole country? Unfortunately, yes.

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[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I just hope there is some level of accountability once we emerge from this fascist regime.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

Death to every Nazi. They know exactly what they are doing.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

We all have to make sure there is

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All these nazis need to end up in those private prisons they’re building

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[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Now, I'm not saying anything at all, but those helmets they use are terrible against blunt force hits from a baseball bat repetitively swung at full force, theoretically speaking.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

"Allegedly"

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 33 points 2 months ago

Your average ICE officer has the mind of a 3rd grade bully with a racist dad.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These people were Given BILLIONS of Dollars to Kidnap Children to Undisclosed locations! THANK YOU REPUBLICANS! WE LOVE YOU!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

.........I don't love them.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

The giy was just standing there and they sucker punched him from the back. Wtf

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They need to be locked up with multi-decade long sentences.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

Goddam cops are such cowards.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Right now the source is hosted under v.reddit.it. is there a mirror we can link to or use?

Reddit being reddit can quickly get rid of that video. And removing that dependency would be so nice.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago

I don't like or trust reddit either. I post videos like this as I find them to the Fediverse as soon as I can.

I found it at that URL in the source, however I posted the video to Mastodon. For this post, the video link is coming from the Mastodon post.

I only include the place where I found it just incase it can help give some context to others.

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And if the masked guy did it, then everyone wearing a mask is guilty right?

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Only the protesters with masks on actually.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago
[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

I remember seeing this from another angle when it happened. Fuck ICE

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