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[–] schema@lemmy.world 193 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

A 175m road scaled in reference to the 35m wide lane:

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Quality contribution. I completely overlooked the relative sizes.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah i was thinking that too, no way 175m is that narrow.

[–] xep@discuss.online 12 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for this, the picture was really bothering me.

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thank you! That really bothered me but I was also too busy (read: lazy) to illustrate it myself.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Okay, but if you look carefully at the top of the inverted pyramid, you'll notice that there are no homeless people allowed to participate.

Also, the bottom has no less than six trees which is Woke.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The whole thing stinks of socialism.

Like we should, idk, pool our resources to "improve" our lives or something....

Nah, I'd rather burn prehistoric forests in my trukk because I'm so free.

America, fuck yeah

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

"Now I'm gonna go roll coal just to own the libz"

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

I guess for bicycles, you'd get that down to about 7 meters. Estimated from heavily used bike lanes in Copenhagen where at rush hour two bikes per second pass (7200 persons per hour).

Fun fact: The distance at which bikes with good paths are faster than metros / rapid transit / commuter rail, or light rail is surprisingly large. I commute to the center of Munich, 14 kilometers one way. It is about 50 minutes on the bike and 60-75 by light rail. And I go at leisurly speed. Plus the bike is much more reliable (outside of icy winter weather, where bike paths are not cleared).

Edit: I'd like to add that for bikes, you don't need necessarily need a single 7 meter wide connection. Four connections, each 2 meters wide, will do fine, too!

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Infographic not to scale (for some reason)

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 weeks ago

Very much not proportional this representation.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

A very large blender and a single water truck.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Commuter smoke. Don't breathe this.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Helsinki just had 0 traffic deaths this past year because they focused all their funding on improving public transportation and bike lanes, disincentivizing car use, and punishing motorists who use their phone or speed by setting up cameras.

I sure wish somebody would look at that incredible success story and try to emulate it here. Unfortunately, public transit seems to be getting less reliable over time instead, which just encourages more car use.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just 1 tandem bike with 50,000 seats

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And, once again, we re-invent the bus.

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[–] fascicle@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So instead of a quint bike you get a quindecuple bike?

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Some say that cars represent freedom and the ability to go where you want when you want.

But tech oligarchs want to destroy that, too. Basically by having their cars require a connection and monitor your every movement within the car and where you are going and when. They also are obsessed with self-driving cars because they then would have more control over your movements.

In short there will BE no plus side to having a car in the very near future. They are enshittifying everything.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm curious about the numbers for tram.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Somewhere between buses and trains.

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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Now do it with lifted pickup trucks assuming 1.25 seating capacity use

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I was gonna say people need to sacrifice for the greater common good but then I realized what community this was and knew people were on my same wavelength.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Metros are good for extremely heavy lines and lrt/tram/whatever other similar form of transit is good for convenience and accessibility(that even well built cities often ignore...) but the king is still bikes in my opinion. I live in a city of 150k so its quite a bit smaller than most places where youd have more mass oriented transit but its still interesting to see that the fastest path to city center is with bike. Not bus, not train(except if you live right next to it) and not car.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

A subway is a metro line located underground. Throughput is the same. Its just more expensive to dig the tunnels

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

this is why you contract out the tunnel construction to past you, when labor was cheaper. worked in london, nyc, paris.... hell of a trick

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

9m wide?

Those are some fat train tracks. Usually they're barely over 1m wide.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m guessing they include all the necessary infrastructure, not just the tracks themselves. And it does say “in each direction”, so we’re talking two tracks.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

Checks out:

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

Standard guage rails are 1.435m wide, plus surrounding space because trains are wider than rails plus a second track.

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