Putting celebrities on a pedestal is a guarantee you'll be let down.
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I used to feel this way. I remember every weekend I would have conversations with my grandfather and they would cover a lot of ground in politics, business, and literature. We didn't agree on much but he always took a deep interest in my life. One day he asked me if I had any role models, who they are and why I looked up to them.
I responded to him with some precocious teenager thing about wanting to be myself and not really wanting to be anybody else but then he explained to me what a role model is.
By explaining to me that there were many admirable qualities about my father to be admired despite all of his shortcomings he said that my father can be a role model but that I should not strive to become like him in every way.
He explained to me that he himself has made many mistakes and doesn't get along with some people that he would like to. He said that he would like to think I would look to him as a role model in some ways but not to try and imitate him or his life.
He taught me the word emulation which I had only ever used for video games and explained that role models can be good and bad.
These guys can be role models for many of the things that they have done. If we find out that they are sex pests or hyper Nazis in secret that shouldn't diminish the example of the good that we can observe from specific actions they have taken.
We can do the good without the bad.
We should want to do the good without the bad.
When I look for the helpers, I admire that they are helping, and I accept that some of them are secretly terrible people in other ways.
This turd keeps in the public sphere by negative posts like this. Better to just not post and let him fade into obscurity.
Sadly he doesn’t need any help from memes hating on him. His supporters and YouTube algorithms are more than happy to keep him going.
Better to have memes mocking him than people encountering him via YouTube or his fans for the first time, because they sell him by making no him sound reasonable. It’s only when people are far down the rabbit hole that they get to see what he’s really like, and often by then it’s too late.
I sleep in a mansion I got by gambling and sleep with prostitutes!
I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Out of all the shit Meg was never before so disrespected as here.
Even though I recognize some, I'll just ask for the sake of others:
Who are all these people?
Up top is Andrew Tate and below (from left to right) is Post Malone, Brendan Frasier, Keanu Reeves, and Henry Cavill
The guy with the face tattoos is Post Malone, a popular musician who seems nice from my very cursory lack of investigation.
Then you have Brenden Fraser from such films as the Mummy, Keanu Reeves from the Matrix, and Henry Cavill from the Witcher.
I don't know much about post Malone, and I don't particularly enjoy his music, but he did an amazing nirvana cover show during the pandemic. If he put out a grunge album I think it would be good
Why’s Cavill a positive role model? I thought he’d become controversial for some reason.
I haven't heard anything of the sort, but I looked into it a bit. What I found was he made some tone-deaf #metoo comments in 2018, and there was a claim he dated a 19 year old once.
And a 21 years old the year before. And Gina Carano before that. He also said this:
“It’s tough for anyone to be in a relationship with someone like me. It’s a tough lifestyle. If I want someone who’s a professional they’ve got their own shit going on. So unless I meet someone who’s very, very young who hasn’t yet started trying a career like that, you can then go, ‘Okay, I’m going to travel with you and do some stuff, maybe I’ll write or whatever; I’ll entertain myself or build my own kind of traveling career.'”
And calling his comments about #MeToo tone-deaf is massively downplaying them. Gal Gadot's Imagine fiasco was tone-deaf; a 35 year old man known to have dated 2 girls 10 years younger than him saying women speaking up about sexual harassment makes it difficult for men to flirt is creepy at best and a confession at worst.
I don't personally believe he's secretly a rapist but he's definitely a creepy dude.
I was curious as I hadn't heard about this, so I looked it up.
I think his comments are pretty tone deaf, but it comes across more as naive than harrassy/rapey.
It definitely sounds creepy, but he talks about how he likes the "traditional" male dating role of "perusing a woman". He doesn't go into detail, but the general idea of that is that you persist to try and win them over. The problem with that, is people missing subtle cues and not picking up on a genuine "no, fuck off", and then it becomes harassment.
Imo it sounds like he's just realising that sometimes that "strategy" might mean your being a harassing prick, and might get publicly called out, even when you didn't realise/intend to harass them, which makes him concerned about trying to do it in the future. It's pretty self centered and a shitty thing to say during the metoo movement.
The appropriate response to that realisation is to analyse your past actions, and speak with women about the issue, and listen to what they have to say.
His message reads more like a cringe young adult who needs some more "real world" experience with people, which I guess is hard when you're a famous movie star with introverted hobbies. More bad wording and ill thought out ideas then unconscious confession though imo.
I could be wrong, but usually those sort of people are more consistent and aggressive in their denial, and then people come out to say "actually... They are a creep" if it's the case.
His message reads more like a cringe young adult who needs some more "real world" experience with people
Yep. This is exactly the opinion I have of him. I guess we just have different bars to clear before we consider someone creepy.
I would certainly consider his statements in that interview as creepy in isolation. But whether just a poorly thought out knee jerk reply to a genuine concern he might have been unintentionally harassing people, or is a telling slip up of more endemic negative behaviour patterns is much harder to parse.
Cavill seems savvy enough not to slip in public much, but as a lefty warhammer fan some of his interactions and projects give me pause. I don't follow him so I don't think I can be more specific than the vibe is off. He feels like a sex pest or a fash who just mostly keeps his nose clean.
Le epic lineup!!1!
Wholesome bacon chungus celebrities 🥰
Fuck tate but also everyone in that bottom pic is a zionist so fuck them too
John Cusack should be there too.
I've heard from one source that (surprisingly) Pitbull should be as well
Largely the evidence was some wholesome responses to various interview questions, so feel free to provide additional context confirming or refuting
4chan once rigged a competition to send him to Alaska, and he was a super good sport about it and treated the visit with humor, humility and dignity. https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1cp6943/at_the_time_4chan_rigged_a_pit_bull_walmart/
Shit I bet that was one of the most excited/confused crowds he ever performed for. The biggest performance in Alaska history probably.