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[-] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 167 points 7 months ago

I'm confused, does he actually think a box packer is skilled labor or is this just a whoosh from the girl.

[-] ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.ca 105 points 7 months ago

Warehouse fulfillment is skilled labor. Fast food work is skilled labor. I'm having a hard time thinking of an example of a truly unskilled labor job.

[-] lieuwestra@lemmy.world 84 points 7 months ago

Skilled labor is economists jargon, so the meaning of it does not match the dictionary definition.

No one is saying there is literally no skill involved in unskilled labor.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Skilled labor = real human deserving of a fair wage.

Unskilled labor = meat machine that we need to pay by law, but we gladly wouldn't pay them a dime if we could get away with it because they aren't real people.

-Asshat Owners

[-] lieuwestra@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Technically skilled as in requiring education (financed by the state), unskilled can learn on the job within days.

But politics has a way with twisting those words into a us/them dichotomy.

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[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Warehouse fulfillment and fast food. It takes little education and training. I can be doing it in a week. Tops.

It's far harder and longer timeframe replacing an engineer for example.

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[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

No, he thinks it's more work. More work but he was paid slightly more until fast food workers got the bump.

Someone should tell him the harder you work the less people seem to make unless it's something very specialized.

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[-] thesprongler@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago

All labor is skilled labor.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 61 points 7 months ago
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[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 28 points 7 months ago

Yes, but some labor, like McDonalds fry cooks, is also skillet labor.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 90 points 7 months ago

Guys desperate to put himself above another, with the delusion of throwing shit in a box being skilled labor, instead of standing in solidarity with the mcdonalds worker and demanding more for both of them

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago

If he thinks packing boxes is skilled labor, then flipping burgers is also skilled labor.

It's just not specialized, and doesn't require any certification or further education. Which would command the premium he's thinking of.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

All labor is skilled labor. Can you think of any job that doesn't require learning some sort of skill(s)? It's just an arbitrary designation intended to justify low wages.

I'm highly educated but you couldn't just stick me into a traditionally "unskilled" roles for which I have neither experience nor training and expect me to function. I'd crash and burn because jobs require the development and utilization of... wait for it...skills.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Some labor is inherently more skilled than other. I can train you in a day to flip burgers. You'll be better in a month than you are on day one, but you don't need hands on training after that first day.

I can't train you in a month to operate a break press. And in my plant that's the least skilled job.

I get that all jobs require some skill, I'm not disputing that. But when we're talking about skilled labor, were talking about those jobs that require significant investment in time to learn, often requiring the laborer to seek that education on their own before even being considered for a job.

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[-] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago

I don't think dude knows what "skilled labor" means.

[-] Wilibus@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Seriously. It takes more skill to prepare food than to pack a box.

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago

TIL packing boxes is skilled labor

[-] CrossbarSwitch@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

Everything is skilled labour. For 99% of jobs you couldn't roll up and be proficient at it without training or practice.

[-] petersr@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But correct me if I am wrong, but in my country skilled labor means you have to have a relevant formal education to qualify for the job, (in addition to getting training on the job which is inevitable).

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[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago

I think (choose to believe) the original tweet is satire.

[-] schnokobaer@feddit.de 39 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, calling box packing skilled labor can't not be satire.

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[-] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

Since when is packing boxes a skilled labor?

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

I think that's the joke

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[-] gearheart@lemm.ee 43 points 7 months ago

I rather a dude handling my food get paid better than someone touching cardboard.

No balls ony food is preferred over no balls on my Amazon packages.

[-] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago

But what if we could have both?

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

This is the American way though isn't it? Push downward instead of moving upward. If flipping burgers is easier than packing boxes, and makes you the same money, why not quit at Amazon and start flipping burgers at McDonald's?

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 37 points 7 months ago
[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 30 points 7 months ago

That McDonald's takes more skill than boxes?

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Different kinds of labor take different skills, not more or less, better or worse.

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[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

I’ve never worked in fast food but I’ve been to them and I’ve watched the workers. You can’t tell me packing boxes at Amazon is skilled labor and that shit isn’t.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

Seems a lot of the comments are focused on debating the word ‘skill’ applied to each job while another capitalist gets off free while infighting amongst people who should be supporting each other in a shit world that capitalism built and benefits off of.

Enshitification is where there’s a CEO somewhere that fucks everyone over and remains untouched.

That person really should be the focus of hate here.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

Packing boxes is not skilled labor.

[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

There's no such thing as unskilled labor. I guarantee you that dude is better than you are at packing boxes. That's known as "skill"

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[-] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 7 months ago

Also, I'm not entirely sure that putting an item that a machine gives you into a box that the machine tells you to put it in requires more skill than working at McDonald's.

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[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's not "skilled" labor.

You need zero skills to work at Amazon.

That being said, you will learn things if you stay long enough.

Skilled labor is like a trade or where you need a specific education. I'm not even sure you need a HS diploma to work at Amazon.

Source: me, working in an Amazon FC


But yes the point of her reply is also very apt. Class solidarity friends. If you're single making <55k or whatever the median income in your area is, there's not a whole hella lotta difference regardless.

But I'll also say this. There's a lot of mfers that do MUCH less work at desk jobs, and in fact are entirely redundant and unnecessary, compared to a fry cook or Amazon tier1 employes.

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[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 22 points 7 months ago

Fry cook or box packer. He upset he picked a harder job?

[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Did he tho? I've cooked and dealt with customers and I've packed boxes and packing boxes feels wayyyyy easier to me

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[-] idontflush@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I like how everyone is upset with the "skilled work" part. But nobody did the calculation, that with Bezos pay and 16 dollars per hour, you could hire 562500 Workers. Which I think is crazy

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[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago

I'm so over the use of "checks notes" for emphasis. for every entertaining way of making commentary there are thousands of boring copies.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

Lol at calling packing boxes skilled labour

That is way easier than working at McDonald’s

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[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Brother how you gonna diss on spongebob like this?

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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 12 points 7 months ago

Way to get played by the big man. Making you fight amongst yourselves.

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