What I found most alarming about this whole thing: this post showed up in the Telegram app for me, in a banner. I don’t follow Durov’s channel. He decided to push it to every Telegram client regardless of whether they’re following him.
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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My message to Telegram CEO: Open source your shit and we'll talk then about freedom and whatever marketing campaing you are on right now. Bye.
That and the need of an android or iphone in order to create an account.... ;[
I don't see why the CEO of Telegram is concerned about laws about scanning of private messages since the vast majority of the communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
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The guy who made bank on Russian suppression of communication: "Europe is the problem."
The free internet is already dead. Where has this guy been hiding that he didn't know that.
It is and isn't.
I'd compare the people who use technologies like this to the internet users of the 90's and those who use facebag, tweeker and insta to the AOL users back then.
Yes, we're the minority, but that is how people have always been. Most people don't want freedom. But those that do still have plenty of options. Don't forget that "they" didn't originally plan on us plebes having true encryption tech and privacy cryptos. It is possible that we are doing better than it looks.
But yea.. his comment sounds more like something we would have said 20 years ago, rather than the present. I agree with your point.
Yeah censorship is rising but it's not at 100% this is what is being spoken on
The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets.
What an absolute loads of bollocks.
There has recently been 1 woman jailed for her tweets where she admitted to inciting violence, not because of free speech issues.
These libertarian wankers love citing that sole case (and make out that it's "thousands, I tell ya!") but will overlook that several Just Stop Oil protesters were jailed for 4 years just for holding a zoom call and anti-genocide protesters are being arrested and charged with terrorism offences just for writing on a bit of cardboard.
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Germany is what? Also the EU voted against chat control.
I partly agree with your point, but please state the facts precisely.
Also the EU voted against chat control.
They did not. It was just removed from the agenda for now.
OK, I didn't know. But my point still is that we don't have it (yet).
I recently heard a podcast “interview” of him by Lex Fridman and - while he’s for sure extremely intelligent and talented - it looks like he’s been infected with the “philosophical fit-bro ultra-liberist elitarianism” disease that is all the rage now, unfortunately.
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this was the dude arrested because he let drug trafficking and csam go unchecked on telegram.... so naturally it makes sense that he'll lurch rightward.
He is not responsible for the user uploads. Telegram deletes illegal activity. If it's a private group they don't know what's happening. CSAM has been on YouTube and they do little about it. But your masters didn't tell you to hate Google yet.
If it’s a private group they don’t know what’s happening
This is not true, group chats with more than two members on Telegram are NEVER encrypted. Telegram admins have full access to see the contents of these private chats, and have the ability to respond to court orders, but they were ignoring those requests. This is why he was arrested. Google/YouTube respond to court orders and do take stuff down, and actual encrypted messengers like Signal have no way to see the contents of the messages, which is why the owners and operators of these services have never been arrested.
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I call bullshit show me the story where CSAM has been on YouTube.
Look up the rest yourself. Google hides most of the news about it. So they are useless to search it up
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