what is up with this batshit insane post, i know this was written by some right wing facist, people like you are the reason it is like this
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The free internet is already dead. Where has this guy been hiding that he didn't know that.
Yeah censorship is rising but it's not at 100% this is what is being spoken on
What I found most alarming about this whole thing: this post showed up in the Telegram app for me, in a banner. I don’t follow Durov’s channel. He decided to push it to every Telegram client regardless of whether they’re following him.
Mine looks weird 😄
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The guy who made bank on Russian suppression of communication: "Europe is the problem."
My message to Telegram CEO: Open source your shit and we'll talk then about freedom and whatever marketing campaing you are on right now. Bye.
I don't see why the CEO of Telegram is concerned about laws about scanning of private messages since the vast majority of the communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
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this was the dude arrested because he let drug trafficking and csam go unchecked on telegram.... so naturally it makes sense that he'll lurch rightward.
He is not responsible for the user uploads. Telegram deletes illegal activity. If it's a private group they don't know what's happening. CSAM has been on YouTube and they do little about it. But your masters didn't tell you to hate Google yet.
I call bullshit show me the story where CSAM has been on YouTube.
Look up the rest yourself. Google hides most of the news about it. So they are useless to search it up
If it’s a private group they don’t know what’s happening
This is not true, group chats with more than two members on Telegram are NEVER encrypted. Telegram admins have full access to see the contents of these private chats, and have the ability to respond to court orders, but they were ignoring those requests. This is why he was arrested. Google/YouTube respond to court orders and do take stuff down, and actual encrypted messengers like Signal have no way to see the contents of the messages, which is why the owners and operators of these services have never been arrested.
They aren't encrypted, hence why I never said they were. This is something your cooked mind imagined so you can argue with yourself.
Private Groups: Only members can see messages. Admins cannot view messages unless they are part of the conversation.
This means if "Crimegroup" has shady stuff in the group if no member snitched it wouldn't be known for them to even delete it. While telegram (the company or workers) could look right in they would need to know it's an illegal group first because luckily they aren't spying on everyone by default
If messages aren't end to end encrypted, then their contents of the messages can be intercepted by Telegram or any adversary who has access to Telegram's systems. This is what the US Government was doing with Prism to suck in unencrypted data from ISPs without their knowledge. By not having end to end encryption, you have to trust that Telegram administrators are being truthful when they say they're not looking at your messages, and that their systems are never compromised by crimegroups or nation states without Telegram's knowledge.
True. It is a trust thing. Thats why I don't trust telegram for privacy. But I use it to follow groups
it's his service; he's absolutely responsible or it. he was arrested because he DIDN'T do anything about it.
He was arrested because he didn't stop people from having freedom of speech. He wasn't and hasn't been found guilty of anything.
posessing csam is not "freedom of speech".
nevermind the fact that telegram repeatedly refused to join child protection against csam groups to address the problem of csam on their service.
Are you stupid on purpose? I'm saying thats the real reason they arrested him. They wanted to censor freedom of speech. Not scam
its everyone elses fault that he let csam unchecked on his app?
It's the people who posted it fault. You think that one human can read everyone's messages lol? They would need to spy on everyone and have millions of employees specifically looking for illegal activity.
People are so righteous but have done nothing to ensure that the Epstein files were revealed.
and the people who posted it were given the platform by telegram and their ceo who did nothing to help fight csam and child exploitation.
I know one thing. If I had a platform I wouldn't be responsible for my users post. All these other CEOs have liability protection. It's a double standard
Oh yes it had nothing with him not doing anything about child porn nothing at all.
Correct.
The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets.
What an absolute loads of bollocks.
There has recently been 1 woman jailed for her tweets where she admitted to inciting violence, not because of free speech issues.
These libertarian wankers love citing that sole case (and make out that it's "thousands, I tell ya!") but will overlook that several Just Stop Oil protesters were jailed for 4 years just for holding a zoom call and anti-genocide protesters are being arrested and charged with terrorism offences just for writing on a bit of cardboard.
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Germany is what? Also the EU voted against chat control.
I partly agree with your point, but please state the facts precisely.
Also the EU voted against chat control.
They did not. It was just removed from the agenda for now.
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I recently heard a podcast “interview” of him by Lex Fridman and - while he’s for sure extremely intelligent and talented - it looks like he’s been infected with the “philosophical fit-bro ultra-liberist elitarianism” disease that is all the rage now, unfortunately.
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