Why are people listening to fucking musicians.
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Well... I definitely didn't like her just listing out this big rapid fire list of names who are Officially Bad People now, and we can't support them. So I picked one at random and decided to look it up.
Morrissey has been vocal in the past about his support for Israel, has appeared on stage in Tel Aviv draped in an Israeli flag, and called the Boycott, Divestment and Sanction (BDS) movement against Israel “absurd and narrow-minded” in an interview with the German newspaper Der Spiegel. He was given the key to Tel Aviv in 2012.
Well, that's pretty fucked, sure.
Taylor Swift? WTF
https://brusselsmorning.com/does-taylor-swift-support-israel-silence-and-fan-backlash/75083/
IDK man. People can say what they want to say. The genocide in Gaza is so bad that I kind of get it if you want to say Taylor is being wrong if she doesn't say anything, but I still don't really like this thing of saying someone is officially a bad person until they say what we want them to say. People can say what they want. There's this weird fine line between "I am advocating for what I believe in because this cause is so morally unambiguous, honestly, you should too" (which it sounds like Taylor's fans are doing) and "... and you need to advocate for it too, or else fuck your ticket sales, SAY WHAT I WANT YOU TO SAY OR YOU'RE BAD."
(And so Roger Waters says, "The whole bloody lot of 'em." WTF dude, you didn't even know who was on the list and not until this lady listed off all the names to you, you clearly have no idea what they actually said or didn't say.)
IDK man. I watched more of it, and I kind of like what Roger Waters had to say. He pulled up this thing about Nick Cave that was actually really damning, and got upset about it (as he should). But this lady is just an idiot. Taylor Swift is on the exact same list as David Draiman. "If you're an American Jew, chances are you've been brainwashed." She's just out here with this weird grimace on her face, finding reasons to yell about how these random people from this random list her Twitter followers assembled for her are bad now.
Taylor swift is a billionaire, can't be a good person by definition
she might personally be a nice person. the role of billionaire that she performs isn't. again, it isn't about personal morals.
Silence is complicity.
@PhilipTheBucket To be honest, I don't like her either, and I tend to avoid her vids/interviews. However, I was curious as to what Waters had to say, so I basically tuned her out.
I also wasn't all that interested in random celebs. I don't buy modern music so it has no effect on my spending or support for any of them.
But overall, yes, I agree with you.
Yeah. Like imagine if someone had made this exact same video about Roger Waters, picking out his weird public statements about Ukraine and then lumping him in with a bunch of people who said things that were much worse, saying he's a POS, brainwashed, and fuck him, and putting him on their enemies list as a result. It's just weird. People can say what they want to say.
I mean I generally liked Nick Cave's music quite a lot, so finding out he is a POS in at least this one respect was definitely relevant I guess. I agree with you, I didn't have much issue with anything Roger himself had to say. But the host is the literal personification of the right-wing "cancel culture" caricature.
Roger Waters is also a big apologist and tool for Russia in the Ukraine conflict, even appearing at the UN as a guest of Russia to make statements, twice. Too many stupid takes to mention so I'll just share the wiki section:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Waters#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
I wouldn't want him as an ally of the Palestine cause, because he's far too volatile in interviews and a liability to come up with a stupid take on something else.