I saw some clips of Friends in which the laugh track had been edited out. Let me just say that this meme is well-justified.
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Idk it's pretty funny quit crushing my childhood
I've mentioned this before and faced fierce pushback from friends fans. The laugh track causes such pacing issues it's so distracting.
I hate laugh tracks - but most of the show (as far as I can tell) is in front of a studio audience
It's a live audience, not a laugh track.
It's a live audience and a laugh track.
Yes, The majority of Friends was filmed in front of a live audience, with the exception of a few shots filmed on location here and there. I saw a recent interview with Lisa Kudrow where she talks about being frustrated on stage because of all the pauses for audience laughter, where the actors would have to pause and do some idle animation. That a television show taped before a live audience is expected to be different than a stage play.
I've also seen a "behind the scenes" video, I think as a special feature of the DVD releases, where they would swap out audience reactions. Because, for example, the take where Monica pops out from under the sheets with Chandler, revealing the two were sleeping together, the live audience went nuts for several solid minutes. For the broadcast version, they inserted an uproarious but brief cheer to keep the pacing up.
Compared to MASH or the Flintstones (!!?!), Friends' laugh track is a lot more genuine but it was at least somewhat engineered.
This but The Office
Good god that show sucks so much. Glad somebody finally said it. I thought the whole world had gone crazy. Their other show, Parks and Rec, was considerably more entertaining.
What did you think of Brooklyn 99 then?
I like Terry Crews, but Andy Samberg's mere appearance in the show ruins it for me, so I can't enjoy it. I don't know why people think he's funny.
I like how Steve Carell plays out Michael, and I enjoy Dwight as well. But the rest really is nothing special. The whole Jim and Pam story arc was more annoying than anything.
It is crazy how good Parcs & Rec is compared to the office.
Especially after they get married and they have to keep inventing Jim and Pam conflict to keep their arc “interesting”
I love parks and rec, because every character is interesting. The office has like 3 and a half good characters
Friends isn't funny, the office is like
Just dumb levels of cringe. Like so cringey no one would actually do that kind of thing, and I'm autistic. So it's so cringe I wouldn't do it. It's not even shitpost funny it's just
Humans being stupid?
The cringe is the original point of the show. It's even very toned down in the US version compared to the UK one.
The original The Office is a very niche thing, definitely not for everyone, and i was always a bit surprised that the US remake got the success it got.
If you want to be deeply infuriated you should watch "Extras" which is the show Gervais and Merchant did after the Office. It's like a horror movie that's so terrifying you have to hit pause - except with cringe.
Don't watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's purely cringe comedy with very little in the way of other humor. I personally like that style, and even I have to stick to a single episode in a sitting. There's something wrong with Larry David because he's said many episodes were based on things he really did.
Humans being stupid?
Yes, that's part of the point, like with Michael Scott being grossly underqualified for his job but landing it by accident and thus doing some unethical shit all the time. That's where this meme comes from.
Just like Seinfeld pivots on narcissistic and selfish people living in a terrible world who don't seem to grow from their experiences.
Want a show that holds up? Watch M*A*S*H without the American laugh track. My god it hits hard, totally different show. Guess you Brits and Aussies already knew, but damn, what a fucking masterpiece of drama, every season. I didn't know it wasn't a comedy!
You can get it without the laugh track? I've actually been thinking about MASH lately, so this would be a good way to watch it. How do you search for that? Do you search for a specific language/region or what?
Watching sitcoms from decades past through a modern lens is difficult.
Most 90s sitcoms haven't aged well at all. Multi-cam 3-wall sitcom in general don't. Single-cam higher quality production that aren't trying to replicate the old variety show live-theatre format have come around.
Sanford and Sons, Full House, and Cheers were really popular, but have aged poorly.
But things like MASH (especiallythe seasons after they dropped the laugh track), Arrested Development, and Scrubs have done really well because they didn't have an identity crisis between theatre and film.
MASH never had a laugh track. It was added in syndication and I believe the episodes, like Seinfeld, were sped up by small percentage to make them a couple minutes shorter.
I fully disagree with you though that there is no place left for classic sitcoms and that they haven’t aged well. While a little old still (but newer than Scrubs) I will refer to The IT Crowd as an example.
That's British TV. They make it work by averaging like 3 hours a year of programming to focus on quality. A single season of an American-style 3-wall sitcom has a longer runtime than most British sitcoms have in their entire run.
Could I BE anymore of a paper-thin stereotype?
You can't just watch friends for the first time in 2025, it's a bad show. You can maybe rewatch for the nostalgia but the show was clever at its time and paved a lot of way for another sitcoms.
It's similar to breaking bad, if you are just watching for the first time you may not find it appealing, but it was great in 2008 and new shows took inspiration from Gillian's direction
It's acceptable background noise, not painful garbage that hurts my soul to hear like big bang theory
I rather watch The Expanse
That was a nice serie, in the 1990s...
HA HA HA HA Ross!!!
It's aged not so well.
Friends was one of the dumbest shows my ex has ever made me watch. When she tried to make me watch Seinfeld, I knew it wasn't going to work out.
Why aren't you laughing? The laugh track specifically requested this time to laugh.
Is this Stargate??
The Mummy
This is a crossover I didn't know I wanted until now.
Sorry ill always love it, the writing is clever and hilarious.
Not sure why its polarizing. Its just a feel good show. Letterkenny is probably more polarizing but I also enjoy that.
I think it's polarizing, just like Seinfeld and other generational TV shows, for reasons that are very intrinsic to the sitcom genre.
First, every sitcom is an acquired taste. Because its humor is based on saturation (with tropes, characters, situations), you have to let it percolate a bit before it starts hitting. It is extremely rare for a show like that to be funny right from the start of episode 1 (even when they frontload a lot of the humor in the pilot to sell the pitch). It's a known issue when you're writing fiction of any kind : if you want to hit deep, you need to take some time to expose your characters, motivations, situations etc... But you run the risk of losing the reader before the payoff. If you skip that and hit early, then your payoffs will be more vague and shallow because they're not backed by a solid foundation. It's a balancing act, but with this genre in particular, which can get to large season counts, you have to have at least a bit of expo.
Traditionally you often hear that you need 1 season to get into a sitcom (also because that's a reasonable timeframe for the writers to hit their stride), but a lot of people aren't ready to sink that kind of time into a show they're not certain about so they'll watch a couple episodes, miss the entirety of the whole point of it, and ditch it.
Secondly, Friends in particular is in a sub-genre of sitcom : the "group of young people having mundane adventures in the big city". The appeal of that sub-genre is kind of like a para-social relationship, where over time it feels like those people are part of your friends group and that makes everything deeper, more significant, and funnier. Obviously this only works if you are tightly packed with the characters group, in terms of age, culture, life experiences etc...
When somebody under 30 watches Friends they'll feel that gap and, unless they develop a personal affinity to the setting, it will all fall flat. On average each given generation cringes at the previous generation's foundational sitcom.
I always found it immersion breaking that they lived in the massive place they did, and that was before I released it was set in New York of all cities. Like all sitcoms tended to gloss over money but Friends was just a step to far for me.
It’s been addressed in the show. Ross and Chandler have good jobs. Joey eventually gets a stable acting job but is usually short on cash. Monica’s apartment is illegally occupied and rent controlled from when her grandmother lived there.
True, I found Seinfeld way more interesting.