I'm on arch so its the highlight of every morning π€£
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The poster would be more convincing if you hadn't inverted apt-get update and apt-get upgrade...
Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe weβre all actually inverting itβ¦
(Iβm just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
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I mean technically you did "update" the OS. It wasn't a particularly useful command by going second, but I bet it was fast.
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I mean, it's definitely faster this way around
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Who even uses apt-get these days?
Yeah apt-get is so old it officially misses packages that apt... gets.
Whoa, do you have something to read up on that? I'd be extremely surprised, since apt-get is supposed to be the script-safe variant, i.e. I'd imagine it's the more stable of the two.
It's actually just personal experience, but I stopped using apt-get a few years back now because I noticed if I did apt after apt-get there would often be a bunch of packages it missed.
Edit: looks like it might be because apt-get can't ~~satisfy dependencies~~ install new packages when upgrading while apt can since apt is a suite of different apt tools rolled into one.
Yeah I'm reading a little bit on it, and it seems like apt-get can't install new packages during an upgrade. On initial reading I was thinking there were specific packages it couldn't download or something, but this makes sense too. Regardless, this is news to me; I always assumed that apt and apt-get were the same process, just with apt-get having stable text output for awk'ing and apt being human-readable. I've been using nala for a long time anyway, but this is very useful knowledge.
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Dont you mean: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
Yea apt-get is so 2010
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Meanwhile in Fedora:
It is done that way for better reliability. It is optional and not even needed with Silverblue.
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Be me -
Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro for my work desktop.
Gets the Ok from my direct manager.
Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before.
Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure βcompatibilityβ, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance wonβt cover it.
Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some form of Linux or Unix.
It's a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.
And those are fighting words because I build web apps.
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This is so cursed.
- Wrong order
- Dont use apt-get in the terminal
- Reboot
Ain't nobody got time for two commands.
sudo apt upgrade --update
Are you serious? That's a thing? I've been doing apt update and apt upgrade for years
It also has sudo apt autopurge which does autoremove --purge
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Click Update and Shut Down
Windows: Updates and restarts
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It's insanity. I had to upgrade my work laptop to windows 11 this week.
IT didn't do their research and turns out our main software isn't compatible with windows 11 at all. So i had to downgrade back to windows 10. When i did, photos don't work and the microsoft store wont open.
Windows is such a horrible system, i have no idea why they made it so poorly. I could have installed any distro of linux and had it working well in less than 20 minutes. Upgrading to windows 11 took almost 2 hours and it still didn't work.
Now IT has to scramble to find a solution before the 14th and we lose all security updates, which they are very concerned about. What a nightmare to be in IT.
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I really like Linux but I just wish I understood how to use it better. I keep having to look up how to do things.
Thatβs how you learn to use it better!
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Even better:
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -ysudo apt --update upgrade -y
Nothing like the joy of my system upgrading without a hassle... just need to press the up arrow key until I find the command... I'll get there eventually
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Last week my brother had to use my laptop and install Rstudio(for some University project) because his Mac was too old and slow. I was out of home so I had to instruct him through the phone and I could hear his awe while he explained how easy was to install the program. He told me laughing that he could see the pacman and started to cheer for it, this made my day.
Well, true, one of the slowest packaging systems in Linux world is still faster than Windows Update.
unattended-upgrades and cron jobs for everything else ftw.
No Linux system of mine upgrades itself without my explicit consent. That's one of the many reasons why I don't run Windows.
Setting those up is me explicitly giving my consent for it to upgrade on a schedule.
Yeah alright. That's one way of looking at it π
I guess what I meant is that I don't like upgrades that happen without me explicitly requesting each and every one of them, and me watching the upgrade process as it happens for errors.
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