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I love how we're all fucked because boomers will never die. Honestly, Gen X has a lot more folks that let us down. It doesn't matter the generation really. I know a pregnant gen Z, and all I can think about is how her kid, according to the popular generational theory, is going to be the next cycle of boomer. That's probably why many young gen Zs are a bunch of little assholes. But then she was a screw up, and my gen, the millineals as everyone knows works harder and is still called lazy and had our own screw ups. Generations are what they are but having no chance at happiness due to the rich controlling every goddamn asset is a new kind of fucked we all have to endure.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Here's how this works:

  1. Network is created that doesn't discriminate on speech.
  2. The left wins debates and it becomes increasingly liberal over time.
  3. Far right billionaires buy it to stop those process.
[–] edgarzen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

It's Chinese spyware bro

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

That's why decentralized platforms have to be the answer. They might not be impossible to co-opt, but they're certainly more difficult.

I've been warning people about this stuff for years, and they wouldn't listen. I'm not happy about being right. It sucks!

[–] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Loops and other fediverse platforms are more important than ever. We need independent social media - not billionaire owned platforms.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What does it take to get people to switch, though? The owner of X did a Nazi salute in front of a national audience. Twice. And most people are still on there.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They just don't care or don't even see it because they live in their personal bubble of like, sports news and little more.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm mainly talking about celebrities and other "taste-makers".

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

They go where the people are because impressions and engagement are money.

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[–] F_State@midwest.social 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Unsurprising that a guy collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship says that TikTok should be a mouthpiece for the Government. It's time for someone in a country that ISN'T the US, Russia, or China to start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I was wondering if a federated alternative existed, neat. Short form video is not for me, but I'm glad that exists for those that like it.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or just don’t use these stupid apps.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.

But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think that just like Elon with Twitter, the value is not in revenue but controlling the narrative.

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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

This will be truth social again with a pre-existing user base and better algorithms. People will drop off, but they will probably boil the frog slowly to keep people around.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago

In ex-USSR that happened as something destructive, but in USA honestly it's normal, using institutional pressure to help friendly businesses. Trump is unusual only in how grotesque he is in his position, but history saw Talleyrand.

And US sanctioned Japan just because some of its businesses couldn't compete, which didn't kill Japanese car industry, but hurt Japanese computer industry, and sent Japan into recession from which it didn't quite recover.

About driving users off - that doesn't really happen unless you intentionally break everything. VKontakte be the experiment showing this, except TG was later made based on VK makers' experience with social stuff, and was very successful, and is now basically the most convenient messaging\social platform. When something FOSS manages to reproduce the experience of TG, then FOSS messaging and social systems stand a chance. So - some of the life moved from VK to TG, but it's more of VK's experience stagnating and being too complex and overloading, not of people fleeing it.

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I just hope it kills the app, which I’m sure it will. I never began using it in the first place but seeing it take over all of my fellow Gen Z, you know, the same ones who have admitted to thinking politics don’t matter, won’t be very happy when their favorite app turns to even more utter trash

Hopefully this wins more minds away from social media and even more people can wake the fuck up here in Amerikkka.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I think people won't care, at least this demographic fellow Gen Z. They still gonna use the app. Arguemnts such as "oh everyone uses this to send funny tiktoks to themselves it's not that big of a deal" it will be just more shit to go through. Similar thing to Twitter. Everyone is so pissed at Elon because more bot accounts, you can't or couldn't block him and other shady stuff but still uses the twitter (X) because... everyone uses it.

But I also hope it will kill the app.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m seeing people moving to sky (or whatever it’s called). It takes time for people to switch social media platforms.

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[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% Epstein files”

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

It's already shite, but why stop there!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wow that sounds like a fun way to bankrupt another company

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 6 days ago (6 children)

He bankrupted a casino, he knows what he's doing.

I suppose that's why the people paying for his campaign chose him, to bankrupt a nation you need someone this talented.

Why do they need said nation bankrupt I don't know, maybe to make it fail while the failure will still be not too gigantic to recover from, and maybe for yet another pump-and-dump scheme, except this time with a country and not an industry. Depends on how optimistic you are about their motives.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

Trump has wanted to destroy the United States since we captured Epstein in 2011 and shut down the best of his trafficking ring. It was never the same after that and that’s why he was suddenly so outspoken about Obama.

Take away a narcissist’s toys and they’ll just vow revenge at all costs. He doesn’t care that he’s destroying millions of lives - we took away his favorite thing; underaged “playmates”.

The rest of them are just assholes who think they can get rich and in some cases, have.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 12 points 6 days ago

I'm sure it really depends on where you live, but here in East Europe I've noticed tiktokkers slowly turning into Z'ers who start accepting Russian disinfo as facts. Meaning, it's already pro-MAGA

[–] Unpeeled3828@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I already moved to redgifs. Goodbye Tik Tok.

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[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Brain rot only for the right… 28 TikToks Later…

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How the fuck do you think we got MAGA to begin with?

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[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 9 points 6 days ago

And renamed to Hate Tok

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

When Xi is the only way to save the US.

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

pretty sure cults are maga (talking about spawnism).

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Fake and lame

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