Very compelling argument and until someone can refute it reasonably this is now more factual than what the US government has said.
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Hey OP, I think this is the same video I posted to lemmy world's gun community a day or couple back...
Tried to get an actual serious discussion going, mostly got idiots screaming at me.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/53416006
Well, fuck it, I'll just copy and paste my post description here, in spoiler tags, as this post is also getting a lot of people who can't seem to figure out how to get past an age gate.
Written summary of the contents of the video, but please actually watch it, as video evidence is key to the entire presentation. Also, the video is age gated because it shows graphic content of a man, you know, fucking dying... that being said, the presenter does a good job of not showing horrific / excessive gore, you can find the neck geyser video elsewhere, if you really want to.
The guy claims to be either a current or former USMC Scout Sniper, and while I cannot confirm this beyond a reasonable doubt... I also do not really have any reason to doubt that he is.
There is also a longer 2 1/2 hour livestream where this guy presumably goes into more detail, which he has linked on his YT vid page.
Essentially, the guy goes through 4 different camera angles.
He explains that the movement of Kirk's shirt is almost certainly not a result of any kind of body armor as is widely being speculated; instead, it is from how Kirk's lapel mic and earpiece and the wire for such were affixed to him.
He shows that the earpiece actually was captured flying off of Kirk's right ear, and that this is what caused the movement of Kirk's shirt.
But also... he believes that the shot did not come from from straight on.
He believes that the shot came from Kirk's right, and he believes that the wound which....featured the 'geyser' of blood coming out of Kirk's neck... he believes this was an exit wound, not an entry wound.
He believes that the entry would was somewhere on the right side of roughly Kirk's jaw, to behind or around his right ear, that the round traversed through Kirk from his right, to his left, and that it likely functionally killed him instantly either by obliteration of the lower brain, or severing of the spinal cord.
He also believes he may have captured a reflection of a muzzle flash, as well as potentially the muzzle flash itself... indicating a shooting position from Kirk's right... and that the currently most popular and widely accepted (?) idea that the shot came from 150 - 200 yards/meters away, basically from nearly directly in front of Kirk... cannot be the case.
Finally, be believes that the caliber used was not 30.06, that the visible wound is simply too small to indicate a 30.06, that it is more likely a lower caliber round.
At least this is inline with ... what I have been able to gather / opinionate based on the published image of what is supposed to be the weapon used in the incident.
Long story short, I think it is more likely that the rifle is not 'an older Mauser in 30.06' as officially described, but instead, more likely to be either a Remington 700 or Ruger American, a model from roughly the 80s - 90s - 00s, and that it is likely to be in caliber .270 or .243.
Hopefully I have linked this correctly, here is the start of a comment chain from myself, in another thread, a few days back, when I attempted to analyze the presented image of the weapon being claimed to be the weapon.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21325405
To add more to my summary and other comments... afaik, we still do not have an autopsy report on Kirk.
EDIT:
If we want to make this a Kirk conspiracy / the FBI is lying ... bonanza mega thread:
Here is another, different guy, who is obviously a guntuber, outright states he is a God Fearing Christian Man... and also believes he owes it to Charlie to point out all the inconsistences / oddities of the ... broader event, if you would.
If this is age gated... I can write a summary for this one as well, I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML20tpxwsGc
If nothing else... I can tell you that a good chunk of 'guntube' is and has been hashing this kinda stuff out in the last couple of days...
So yeah, if nothing else, a good deal of the right is doing a lot of conspira-cizing, as it were.
Yep, I'm a leftist who also appreciates guns, yep, 95% of guntube is a bunch of product placement and immensely right wing people, please don't remind me.
I wish it wasn't like that, I also appreciate guns, but vote as far left as I can. The dude has a really solid analysis, but I looked at the other videos on the channel and wanted to hurl.
That pretty much describes my same reaction to almost all guntubers as well, lol.
On that note, RIP Paul Harrell, I suspect I would have disagreed with a good deal of his politics, but goddamnit if he wasn't the most reasonable and processional FUDD who ever lived, I can't actually tell what most of his politics were, because he had actual fucking decorum and kept it as level as humanly possible.
Conversly: Fuck Brandon Herrera and Fuck the entire Garand Thumb gang.
I used to like watching garand thumb before he started injecting political opinions in. I stopped watching him pretty early. I'm sure he's gotten awful now.
Same, he started out alright, and now him and his friends have all decided they are cooler than you, actually, are insanely pretentious, and they also seem to think they are something like indie film producers... everything is like 3 to 4x longer than it needs to be, overproduced and overwritten.
Oh and of course all the blatent sponsorships and ads, which are not ads actually, because, heh, trust me bro.
Bleck.
Basically, if any guntuber seriously says 'Two guns is one gun, and one gun is no guns,' they've fucking lost their minds and are now gunculture social media infuencers, competing in a popularity contest and occasional drama fights... they've lost the plot.
I wonder if these guys even... remember, or acknowledge the existence of FPSRussia, these days.
The FBI would never lie to us
Certainly not when led by noted bug eyed conspiracy theorist Kash Patel, oh heavens no, never.
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My apologies.
I'm using revanced so didn't even think about that.
Revanced can bypass login requirement?
I've always been a happy Newpipe user but this might make me switch
Nah I don't think so, I'm logged in. The fact I'm using revanced isn't relevant, my mistake.
What instance?
This video has been reported twice as being political, but I wasn't able to see anything political in the first 8 minutes.
If you do believe it is, please comment.
Purely ballistics talk, zero politics.
Thanks for the confirmation
Not political.
I watched the entire thing, no politics.
Conspiracy yes, but that's not mentioned in the sidebar as against the rules.
Every time someone says "x doesn't lie" they're both right and wrong. Right because things without the ability to reason about right and wrong literally don't have the agility to intentionally misrepresent the truth, and they're wrong because literally every last measurement, process, etc. can be faked, introduce error, and a trillion other things that can make its results wrong.