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[–] zzx@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Fuck Sabrine Hoffsteader. She's an idiot and you should get your news from someone else. Stupid grifter

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago

Was really disappointed when she came out to be transphobic.

[–] polle@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do you have some Information about this?

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The facts are:

She has a PhD in theoretical physics. She could not find meaningful employment in particle physics. Unless somebody can correct me, she's produced little if anything substantive to the field.

In the last several years she has engaged in attacks against the public trust for science. She engages the conspiratorial-minded viewers who're looking for any reason to disavow scientific knowledge.

One example was putting on scripted theatrics while reading a self-penned letter fraudulently claimed was from a prominent scientist, who's identity and details of course must be kept totally secret. Reading out this "bombshell letter" was a transparent children's play, where the held-anonymous writer magically agreed with every one of her endless, bleating refrains, that most scientific research is "bullshit".

Then her support for Eric Weinstein who is a complete grifting con-man with an "entertainment" publishing that he fraudulently describes as both a "paper" and a credible physical theory. It was literally released on April 1 and directly in it, it tells you it is a work of fiction meant for entertainment, and like all good science (/s) may not be used, incorporated into other works, or improved upon. It's a complete piece of hogwash, and every credible physicist from here to Mars has described as not fit to wipe fecal matter; not a theory, not even science.

Then there's all the Theil money.

Check out Professor Dave on YT, he just fucking obliterates her.

Edit

First https://youtu.be/70vYj1KPyT4

Second and better https://youtu.be/nJjPH3TQif0

Third and best, 3.5 hours of clobbering with qualified physicists https://youtu.be/oipI5TQ54tA

[–] polle@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Thanks for explaining!

[–] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She is a transphobe and peter thiel fangirl. She is against renewables and thinks that 'mainstream science' is just a money making scam. All around dumb bitch who chugged the kool aid.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I used to watch her when, as far as I knew, all she talked about was science (mainly physics) news. You know, talking about the thing she actually studied in.

Then one day she did a "capitalism is actually great" video, and spouted a bunch of erroneous neo-lib bullshit. Thankfully most of the comments tore into her, pointing out the logical falacies and out right lies she was parroting.

I only watched a few more vids after that as she seemed to get more and more out of her area of knowledge and saying dumb shit.

I had no idea about the anti trans stuff though. I'd just stopped watching and written her off as the Nth person to be smart in one area and try and apply that to other areas where they have no expertise but think they know more about it than anyone else.

So yeah, fuck her

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I stopped watching her generally when she put up her poorly thought out, TERF-filled anti-trans video, but the "Capitalism is good, actually" video came up in my feed and I watched it out of curiosity.

It's so wrong it's impossible to know where to begin. She invents a history of money that didn't happen, defines capitalism in a nonsensical way and in the comments admitted she did no research for the video whatsoever and yet still defended her points as if her absolute ignorance on the subject was somehow laudable.

Absolute buffoon. Nobody should watch her videos. She is intellectually dishonest and generates ignorant content to garner clicks.

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[–] Hector@lemmy.world 151 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If the last 5 years has taught me anything, it is that stock prices are completely divorced from the realities of the fundamentals of business. It is a clown economy and more like a casino then an honest measure of what a stock is worth. Especially with tech.

AI is way overhyped, to a level we perhaps have never seen before, but I would not expect the stock prices too reflect that.

Look at Tesla. The intrinsic value was no more than 10 billion before he started sieg heiling on national TV and alienated half of the western world.

What will continue to drive the stock prices is the support or acquiescence of governments to it. Do you the United States and the rest that follow.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 days ago (8 children)

but I would not expect the stock prices too reflect that.

Agreed. One rule of the stock market is that while it might theoretically rely on sound fundamentals, it can stay irrational longer than you (or anyone) can stay solvent. It will inevitably fall screaming towards reality eventually, but there's no guarantee it will happen within any reasonable timeframe and expecting it to is dangerous. It's a rigged casino, the house always wins, and when they don't their goons will grab you when you try to leave. At this point the billionaires own pretty much the entire house, and their goons are running the world's largest military and police state. "Invest" at your own risk.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think there is a fundamental difference now, the government has bailed out stocks twice in 2008 and 2020. Moved Heaven and Earth with the fed and indirect injections of capital to prevent the rich from losing money. So these stock prices reflect tax dollars billing them out in the downturn.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Why bother worrying about the downturn if the world bends over backwards to stop you hitting the ground?

It is basically impossible for Visa to go bankrupt, for example. The moment the threat looms, governments are going to leap in and save them. They're too big to fail.

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Look at Tesla. The intrinsic value was no more than 10 billion before he started sieg heiling on national TV and alienated half of the western world.

My conspiracy theory is that Musk gave multiple investors billions of his personal cash to invest in Tesla stock at key moments. He tells his straw purchasers when to buy hundreds of millions worth of stock in order to pump the price and kill those who short the stock. This scares the shorters out of the market and ultimately removes a natural source of downward pressure on the price. They sell off what they purchase all at once relatively slowly so they can then do it again.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (13 children)

The price isn't based on what the company is worth, it's based on what people think the company will be worth in the future. Clearly, a lot of people believe that truly autonomous vehicles are just around the corner, and AI is going to revolutionise everything.

They're most likely wrong, but it will take a long time for the market to accept that.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No rational person would think that Tesla would command the majority of that market of autonomous vehicles, robots, or whatever. Especially not after their Flagship truck turned out to suck in like 20 different ways.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

writes this while sitting in a meeting where the boss is excited about all the fancy AI tool that are being sold to him [send help]

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to like Sabine but she's a hack.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

TLDR she's educated but had some clashes with academia and basically leans into an anti-establishment slant on everything. She's kind of like an enlightened centrist but for science and conspiracy. She's no broken clock, but she's wrong on enough things that you can't really take her at her word.

She also doesn't really say a lot for how long she takes to say it.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago

Number 1 reason is the people selling it are far more excited by it than the people having to use it.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 24 points 3 days ago

six rounds of funding without making any money should be proof enough, an industry can't be entirely made of unicorns.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

NVIDIA is already paying podcasters and YT channels to cover Isaac and Jetson, so I guess the shovel seller is already seeing itself out.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago (7 children)

And then AI will just go away and everything will go back to normal again, yes? It'll suddenly stop working and so people will stop using it for all the things they're currently using it for.

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

consider the Dot Com Bubble: the internet obviously didn't disappear but that doesn't mean there weren't serious economic consequences.

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ELI5. Because I was actually 5 when that happened.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 days ago

The dot-com bubble? A whole bunch of investment money was poured into businesses operating over the Internet from around the time dial-up became widely available. A few years later, investors realized that "on the Internet" wasn't necessarily the key to making a crapton of money and the stock market crashed. A bunch of companies (many of which never made it to profitability) went under, and a fair number of people lost their jobs. Pets.com was one of the more notable victims.

This doesn't, however, mean that no business is done over the Internet today.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (21 children)

people will stop using it for all the things they're currently using it for

They will when AI companies can no longer afford to eat their own costs and start charging users a non-subsidized price. How many people would keep using AI if it cost $1 per query? $5? $20?

OpenAI lost $5 billion last year. Billion, with a B. Even their premium customers lose them money on every query, and eventually the faucet of VC cash propping this whole thing up is gonna run dry when investors inevitably realize that there's no profitable business model to justify this technology. At that point, AI firms will have no choice but to pass their costs on to the customer, and there's no way the customer is going to stick around when they realize how expensive this technology actually is in practice.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There are free open models you can go and download right now, that are better than SOTA 12-18 months ago, and that cost you less to run on a gaming PC than playing COD does. Even if openai, anthropic et al disappeared without a trace tomorrow AI wouldnt go away.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And those are useful tools, which will always be around. The current “AI” industry bubble is predicated on total world domination by an AGI, which is not technically possible given the underpinnings of the LLM methodology. Sooner or later, the people with the money will realize this. They’re stupid, so it may take a while.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yes, just like the internet died after the dotcom bust.

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[–] arararagi@ani.social 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, even NFTs are still technically around, the tech didn't go away, it just stayed as it's own niche since grifters stopped trying to push it to normal people. I think the same will happen to AI since even if everyone that used chat gpt paid it's monthly fee, they would still lose money.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I enjoyed Sabine’s analysis in another video that continuing to make increasingly larger models with more compute is about as effective as continuing to make larger and larger particle accelerators. Come on, bro, this million km Gigantic Hadron Collider will finally get us to the TOE. Just one more trillion, bro.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hasn't Sabine been getting in some hot water about promoting academic skepticism and making authoritative claims on fields well outside of her expertise?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Personal experience as some of her views have come across my viewing habits is she is as full of shit at the next one. She passes off conjecture as fact.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

She has also peddled transphobic talking points

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[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every particle accelerator that has been built has paid for itself in research value. There's basically nothing that comes out of AI research except the need for a bigger model.

The comparison is poor. Particle accelerators are science, LLMs do not produce science.

That's not to say that we couldn't build LLMS that would be useful for scientific purposes but we're not. That is not the function or the goal of the people building these things.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not really my area of expertise, but this article lays out her perspective on this for anyone who isn’t aware: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-world-doesnt-need-a-new-gigantic-particle-collider/

TL;DR - Many times the cost of the LHC and unlike the LHC, the gains are likely to be incremental instead of revolutionary. The same funding could do much more good elsewhere.

To your point, agreed that even small, incremental gains for science are more valuable than what we are likely to get from AI.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Except that’s not at all what they’re doing. Most of the impact studies are already outdated, and the models are shrinking and becoming more efficient.

Used to love Sabine, but the channel’s been taken over by sloppy clickbait.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Every step towards the next generation of colliders needs to be deeply justified about the falsifiables it will check and their interest to the current knowledge before being able to see a cent for it, and the expected energies of the TOE are well known to not be reachable with current means and technology, that's not what they are promising ever, but what they do they fulfill, often, beyond predictions, to not mention the huge return basic research has always had in the long term to humanity... nope, I am afraid that I do not find it a good analogy at all. EDIT: but, yes, such strategy of making it bigger does not work anymore, so collider proposals go usually in other directions...

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