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[–] ArtificialRyan@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Windows shoving AI down everyone's throats lead me to Linux. First Debian, then Fedora. BTW I'm using Arch now. I love AI, but giving Microsoft full access to my entire file system by force rubs me the wrong way.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Same. I run a dual-boot with Linux Mint, but have a windows installation for gaming. I do 99% of my computing on Linux now.

[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

I also have dual-boot with Mint, because I expected to be using Windows for gaming. It turns out I have never needed to. Every game I've wanted to play has worked on Linux; and so my Windows partition has just sat idle.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

My work computer had to be upgraded to 11

Why does my fucking file explorer stop responding so much?

I don't understand how they fucked this up so badly

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I more surprised by how slow the start menu is. It's absolutely incredible. Windows 7 start bar was faster on my core 2 duo with spinning hdd both to open and search than windows 11 on my 9800X3D with nvme ssd.

[–] wetsoggybread@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Work upgraded my computer from 10 to 11 and now switching between desktops is noticeably slower

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

My work computer is on W11. Notifications got much worse, and moved to a harder-to-reach shortcut. There's a persistent bug with maximization, in which many forms of apps will suddenly take over the region normally reserved for the taskbar (no, I'm not referring to full screen modes) that so far as I can tell can only be fixed by logging out.

The UI is worse, making settings pages even more confusing. Windows Explorer has dived deep into iconography, while still not being clear about what those icons mean. The new context menus are missing options, so they need an extra one to go back to W10's options.

This is of course setting aside their blatant lies about "It's not spyware we promise we promise", among so many other hundreds of problems. I'm doomed to stay on W10 for now to finish a project, but afterwards, I'll be finding a distro I prefer.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I moved to Linux thanks to their enshittification. I'm kicking myself I didn't do it years ago. Linux is how an OS should be.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago

I think Linux has also improved immensely. There are so many more things available that weren't an option even a few years ago. Not to say it was bad, but it wasn't something most people could seemlessly do. Now it kinda is.

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

Welcome to linux bro

[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

I use Linux on my home computer, and Windows on my work computer (begrudgingly).

Windows 11 does not feel like an 'upgrade' at all. One obvious downgrade is that when I try to change the settings when printing a document, the settings window does not fit on the screen. ... I don't blame Windows for that - its a big settings Window. But the issue is that Windows doesn't allow me resize it, or scroll down on it, or even let me drag it partially of the screen. And so the result is that it is impossible for me to click the 'ok' button when I'm done. The only way to save my changes is if I memorise which button is ok, then press 'tab' the exact right number of times to have it select the ok button while I can't see it, and then press enter. That's pretty crap. I didn't have that problem on windows 10. (To be honest I don't remember exactly what was different. Certainly the window with all the settings was the same, but I believe it had a scroll bar, maybe? In any case, I could certainly press the ok button before 'upgrading'!)

There are so many annoying features in Windows 11 that I've spent ages trying to turn off. For example, I was happy with the way windows could be snapped to the top and to the sides of the screen in windows 10. In Windows 11 they've expanded that feature, but made it worse. The snapping brings up menus, and behaves different ways at different times. It's fiddly and harder to predict. It tries to do more, but ends up being less useful because it is unreliable. I've disabled most of the differences in the settings, but not all can be disabled.

And there are heaps of weird inconsistencies in Windows 11. For example, when I rename a file in file explore; often stays in the same places even though it is no longer in the correct file order with the new name. So with alphabetically ordered files, there are often a few things that are out of order - because Windows is inconsistent. (Closing and reopening reorders them.) There are also some weird glitches. For example, I often see graphical glitches while using Excel in Windows 11 which I never saw in Windows 10. Things like rows partially overlapping other rows after scrolling, or the outline of the selected cell sometimes not being visible in parts of the document until you minimise and restore the app. It's pretty bogus. Obviously they've tried to change some backend stuff and created some bugs in the process.

Anyway, the point is that it easy to see why someone would be reluctant to 'upgrade' to Windows 11.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 16 hours ago

I converted to Linux as soon as one of the shit Windows 11 updates bricked my 5-year old laptop that was working fine previously.

Kubuntu 4 lyfe! ✌️🤪

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

Windows convinced me to upgrade to Linux :D

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Bro they couldn't convince me to upgrade to Windows 8.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

*Downgrade

Win 11 is a downgrade.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This happens every time there's a new windows version

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 1 points 11 hours ago

Part of it is just resistance to change, but the hardware restrictions and AI encroachment are legitimate impediments in this case.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

They can't convince me to switch to Win 11 because apparently my computer isn't good enough.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I forced a win 11 upgrade on my old Lenovo laptop and it's been running mint 🤟

[–] Odemption@sopuli.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

For me, my computer is eligible one day, and then incompatible the next. Switchin like that for a couple weeks now. Linux here I come I guess.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm poised... might try a dual boot first.

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[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Speaking of which... What's the least invasive way of installing Windows 11?

My main desktop has a Linux and Windows 10 dual-boot setup, but I was thinking about switching to something like Windows To Go when Windows 10 hits EOL, only to find that WTG is no longer supported. I've heard that it's still possible to make a bootable Windows 11 USB using Rufus, but that it's somehow finicky or buggy...

I'm not sure if using a VM is a viable option for me, as I would probably need GPU passthrough and I really only have space for a single GPU in my current case (that would be used by my Linux host).

Am I stuck dual-booting?

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

My gaming computer runs Windows 11. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference between Windows 10 and 11.

[–] RawDog@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I mean, who wants to buy a brand-new computer to be able to run Windows 11 anyway? Besides,most folks aren't tech-savvy or care enough to go through the hoops just to install this dumpster fire of an OS.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
  • Worse drivers.
  • More bloat.
  • More "telemetry" (spyware and adware).
  • It breaks a ton of the systems I've had to implement by sheer force.

Why the FUCK would I do that? Just to give microsoft more money? Go and FUCK yourself.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I mean, it's windows 10, but worse

  • If you have 8gb or less of RAM, it's constantly swapping and trash your SSD

  • It always needs to automatically install the fucking updates in the background hogging the CPU and SSD time when you actually need to work/play

  • When they introduce bugs, they take years to fix them. The taskbar took 3 years to be restored to features that were present since windows 95. One year ago they introduced a new bug that with some display port monitors, when it goes in standby, the resolution switches for a second to 640*480, trashing all windows and desktop layout, super infuriating. Probably this will be fixed in windows 12

Plus with all their decision to force people to trash millions of perfectly working computers... I know many they just give up on personal computers and just use phones/tablet as it's enough for them

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The updates are off the fucking charts. Constantly updating/breaking services and apps are useless literally until you reboot. They really took the "reboot will fix it" and ran as far as they could go.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Four updates (and consequent reboots) in one week. Wtf

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

I'm one of the few whose laptop is about 10 years old so it needs replacing. Most likely a new laptop will be preloaded with windows 11. Do they sell laptops pre-loaded with Linux?

[–] CircuitSpells@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

System76 has laptops with Pop OS

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

That's roughly what I'm hoping for: Former top of the line 7th gen CPU ThinkPad, such as a P51 or P71, might become really cheap as soon as the small Linux used hardware market is satiated when Win10 support ends.

For me, that'd be a massive upgrade :-)

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Depending on your budget, there's the Framework laptops.

Edit: I want to add... What I did, was go to an opshop, get a laptop there, and wipe it for Linux. I got a decent laptop at a decent price, saved a little on ewaste for the world, helped a local opshop make a little money, and not contributed to any corpo greed.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

What's a opshop?

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[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Installing linux yourself is dead easy. I would just buy a Windows laptop and wipe the drive

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want Microsoft to have the win of selling even 1 license.

[–] magguzu@midwest.social 6 points 20 hours ago

Buy refurb then, it's what I did and it's super fast. Returns are diminishing these days and your money will go further.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

You can get a laptop with no OS preinstalled just about everywhere.

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[–] Gearheart@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

I have win 11. I only use it as a steam game machine and sometimes vr games.

If I'm ever required to reformat I'll probably try IoT Enterprise LTSC. Unsure how video game friendly the version is though.

[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

IOT Enterprise LTSC fully works for running Windows games. It just doesn't have a lot of the bloatware. I've tried it and I'm dual booting with Arch.

If it is just meant as a steam machine, I recommend looking at Nobara for Nvidia GPU and Bazzite for AMD GPU. I will admit that I haven't tested vr games yet.

Personally, I'm maining Arch and it plays most games in HDR at 4k 120Hz. My Windows is so I have access to Microsoft Office.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

IoT Enterprise works just fine. That said, I still don't trust Microsoft - it still insists on forced updates and reboots, and likely AI, down the line.

I am figuring on switching to SteamOS Desktop, once that is released.

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[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago

Cool site! Didn't know it existed, and I was pleased to see that there are people out there willing to "fingers on the keyboard" assist those who want to switch but don't know how.

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