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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reminder that the 100 million number comes from the editor's introduction to the Black Book of Communism, who "was 'hunting' for the highest possible number of victims", and whose introduction was disavowed by three of the other authors.

Three of the book's main contributors (Karel Bartosek, Jean-Louis Margolin, and Nicolas Werth) publicly disassociated themselves from Courtois' statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Margolin and Werth felt that Courtois was "obsessed" with arriving at a total of 100 million killed, which resulted in "sloppy and biased scholarship", faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries, and rejected the comparison between Communism and Nazism. [citations in the Wikipedia article]


Also, a side note: The term they're looking for is "corporatocracy" or "corporate capitalism", or sometimes you'll hear "crony capitalism" (as if these are distortions of capitalism and not inherent trends!). Corporatism is a whole other thing, a class-collaborationist ideology/system based on collective bargaining of groups. It has its own issues, but it's a separate concept.

But the word "corporatism" is so misused that it's hardly worth calling wrong anymore...

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Literally this guy i knows EXACT argument every time we discuss this. Then I describe how capitalism inevitably becomes corporatism because of HOW IT WORKS.

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[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is dumb as snake would never even recognize people dying by anything but their own hand. Snake still an idiot

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Fake ass anarchists telling me to read Kropotkin as if this is what he wrote

We cry shame on the feudal baron who forbade the peasant to turn a clod of earth unless he surrendered to his lord a fourth of his crop. We called those barbarous times. But if the forms have changed, the relations have remained the same, and the worker is forced, under the name of free contract, to accept feudal obligations. For, turn where he will, he can find no better conditions. Everything has become private property, and he must accept, or die or hunger. The result of this state of things is that all our production tends in a wrong direction. Enterprise takes no thought for the needs of the community. Its only aim is to increase the gains of the speculator. Hence the constant fluctuations of trade, the periodical industrial crises, each of which throws scores of thousands of workers on the streets

But don't like worry about the fundamental structure of society that allows for this to happen, that would be worrying about "ism"s! Just wank on wank off about individual responsibility!

Pyotr Kropotkin

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Gotta love how basic logic is far beyond the comprehension of ancaps.

Tell me, who is going to enforce property rights in an anarchist setting? Whoever has the biggest guns?
So, you're telling me that a person or group will use force and threaten violence against those that don't play along? How is that anarchic?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (8 children)

say what you want but i think it's pretty cool that they made a "victims of communism" museum. it's a building where you walk through a main door to get in and learn about people who were victimized by at least ostensibly communist regimes. it's great because the main door works both ways: if you're already inside, you can walk through the same door and step into the "victims of capitalism" museum.

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