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[-] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I mean, if they halted operations, presumably permanently as they seem to imply, it shouldn't matter right? Since they intend to ditch all their assets and exit the market anyway, right?

Unless this whole thing was a marketing ploy for Western audiences and they plan to start right back up once people stop paying attention. Hmm...

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah exactly, if they were serious about leaving then what's all the fuss about. Looks like a bluff got called.

[-] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

...with a weaker bluff. It's childish, like the toothless sanctioning of Biden and Hilary Clinton. Or threatening international volunteers for the Ukrainians with legal action, while inviting Syrian mercenaries at the time. The noises coming out of the Kremlin have become farcical.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Nationalizing stuff is most definitely not a bluff. There is absolutely no reason for them not to do this, what's the west going to do in response exactly?

[-] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Never invest there again. This will hurt Russia long after Putin's gone.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

The west was never going to invest there again anyways. Russia's future is going to be aligned with China and India, the two biggest growing economies in the world.

[-] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, as a client state to China, as North Korea is now. And when China and India flare up, Russia will be forced to choose China. Their options only become more narrow, so long as Putin remains in control.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

You continue to exhibit stunning lack of understanding of geopolitics or even basic geography. Comparing Russia to DPRK is beyond hilarious, but you go on further with the deranged notion that there's going to be some China and India flare up when it's becoming clear that India is patching things up with China right now seeing western insanity. India is currently exploring how to use yuan to pay Russia for energy and just had talks with China about resolving their border dispute.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254958.shtml

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3170314/china-india-border-row-signs-thaw-fresh-round-talks-analyst

If you ever decide to look at a map, then it'll become crystal clear to you that India's interests lie with Russia and China.

[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

India has ongoing ideological differences with China though, no? Modi doesn't seem very friendly to China from what I've seen.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

How is the government going to handle the use of public computers if Microsoft is getting out of Russia? I mean, I'm sure they already have a lot of pirated copies and old versions of Windows, as any (at least third world) country does, but at some point I don't see any option to either pirate every copy of Windows or start using Linux.

[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t see any option to either pirate every copy of Windows

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts 🏴‍☠️

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I know you can pirate it, I doubt a government will decide to launch a national scale campaign to pirate every machine with Windows, it would probably be easier to install Linux any way since you have a lot of older machines.

[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I think you're right that government departments would use Linux in the long term… seems to me it could take months, if not years, for workers to learn all the new ways of doing things, virtualise / wrap / port any Windows-only software they're using, replace or write drivers for any non-Linux-supporting hardware they use, and fill any holes in accessibility tech – I've heard that JAWS is a long way ahead of Linux equivalents.

Setting up a fake license server, or rolling out something like MAS using Group Policy might make a lot of sense in the meantime...

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I agree there are cases where you need specific software and in that cases it might be hard, but also there are a shit ton of other cases where everything you need is simply a word processor and spreadsheet.

[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

To be clear, I hope places just cut straight to Linux, I'm saying it seems likely there'll be a transition period. It still takes time to retrain on a different word processor or spreadsheet software, especially if you've been using Microsoft's 20+ hours a week.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I know, I know, also people who are not tech savvy, you change the smallest thing to their GUI and they get lost, you need to do some training stuff.

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