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Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because "libs worse", yikes (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Genocide is a protected term. Only crimes against humanity in the Genoc region of Poland can be called that.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Had me in the first half

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 22 points 4 months ago

Otherwise it's just sparkling mass murder

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago

Hexbear, probably

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

DB0 seems like a cool instance, but the tankie roach adjacency is a massive red flag.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

Indeed. All I wanna do is maths!

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 4 months ago

That and being explicitly pro-ai

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean this is the reason they give when removing comments

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Well, that is a shitty comment.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

db0 also discourages voting in elections because "its a waste of time" lolol

Yea how is your anarchist community gonna decide things? Ask the community for agrees and disagrees with a proposal? Congrats, you just reinvented voting!

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's funny how every anarchist community ends up becoming liberal, democratic and western

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[+] finitebanjo@piefed.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They've gotten very strange in the past year or so. I've seen multiple dbzer0 users, including two admins, do complete 180s on tankie bullshit, and it's rather bizarre.

My best guess is that tankies offer them a sense of community, which is how many terminally online folk get drawn into it. People who have a deep desire for community will overlook moral issues if invited to be a part of that community, and even adopt, consciously or unconsciously, those positions in order to better 'fit in' with the community.

In a time when the real world is more recognizably hostile than ever, or at least for as long as most of us here have been alive (insofar as we are both aware of it and noting that it is backsliding rather than improving), online communities probably seem quite tempting to hew closer to.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it's your usual anarchist thinking they're stronger together with a tankie, little do they know that the tankies will eat them every single time

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I doubt practical considerations have anything to do with it.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

idk, the historical analogies here seem like a trend line trying to form, there's gotta be some kind of sourcing to it.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tankies say nice words to anarchists when out of power

Naive anarchists fall for it, while wise anarchists do not [WE ARE HERE]

Just enough naive anarchists are peeled off from opposition to tankies that anarchist forces under the smart guys, gals, and enby pals, are overwhelmed by the tankies when push comes to shove

Tankies collapse to liberals peddling "The state, but slightly less atrocious"

Anarchists begin searching for allies under a liberal regime which despises them, but is non-totalitarian enough that meaningful organizing is possible

Tankies say nice words to anarchists when out of power...

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 4 months ago

Sorry I've got my airpods in, did they say something?

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[+] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (6 children)

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

"China is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs, but it's nothing like the genocide Israel is waging", saying that Chinese influence in Myanmar is a more serious violation by the PRC than the Uyghur genocide is, and leveling a judgement of "PTB" - "Power Tripping Bastard" - towards the moderator of this comm for banning someone who was literally denying the Uyghur genocide.

Combined, that's pretty distinctly defending Uyghur genocide denial, and I would say right up on the border of denying Uyghur genocide themselves.

If I said, "Israel is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Palestinians, but it's nothing like the genocide the Nazis waged", would you regard that as:

A. Borderline genocide denial of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by reducing the ongoing genocide to something that is simply 'shitty and authoritarian' while noting that 'real' genocide is more than that

B. Just making casual comparisons

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The beauty of the fediverse is that if you don't like the actions of one instance's admin team you can simply move to another and create your own versions of communities they host, with blackjack and hookers.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is literally defending one genocide.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I like how they are gate keeping the term tankie

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unruffled is the biggest reason I decided to block their instance. When I brought some issues up with db0 (the other admin) about it, he just ignored it and played dumb. One admin is actively a troll and the other, at best, doesn't know how to handle their shit.

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