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States where you can get a COVID vaccine at CVS following RFK Jr. changes (www.axios.com)

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The next pandemic is gonna be fucking sick.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 10 hours ago

It's not even the next one. It's the same one on repeat.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

With how chaotic trade has become, maybe there will be less resistance to border closures (international and national) and hopefully less initial spread?

[+] infjarchninja@lemmy.ml -43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The covid jab is not a vaccine.

It became a vaccine after the W.H.O. changed the definition of what a vaccine was.

I have had all my childhood vaccines, measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough) and polio and have been immune from these diseases all my life. This is what a vaccine is supposed to do, These are true vaccines that work.

I do not have to go back every year to have a top up.

Before the change; the definition of “vaccination” read.

The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce "immunity" to a specific disease.

Now, it reads:

The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce "protection" to a specific disease

The word “immunity” has been changed to “protection.”

which means, that you were "immune" and now you are just "protected".

In reality you are only protected against the symptoms of covid, you do not become immune to covid.

Hence the continual annual top up jab, more colloquially known as "the booster".

So its not a vaccine.

This is fact! not conspiracry theory.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I get vaccinated for the flu every year. The flu vaccine does not produce immunity to The flu but offers protection from it. The diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis vaccines lasts about 10 years. These are facts

[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not correct.

As an example, have you had the smallpox vaccine? It is effective for about 10 years before the effectiveness reduces, so a top up is needed.

The anthrax vaccine? It needs 3 or 4 doses and regular top ups, and it only gives resistance.

The tetanus vaccine? It lasts about 10 years also.

Lots if vaccines have a time period where they grant primarily resistance. In the case of something like anthrax, the objective is to make it largely survivable.

I know you used a lot of your logic to arrive where tou are, so hopefully this additional information allows you to arrive at a better conclusion.

[+] infjarchninja@lemmy.ml -8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

hey survirtual

Thank you.

I am no expert as you can see.

Until recently, I had not had a tetanus since I was a child. Then I had a left sided hemicolectomy and had to have one in hospital

we only seem to find out about a tetanus top up, if we attend a hospital, because of a bad cut, or need an operation in the UK. I dont think it is common knowledge.

The anthrax vacccine is not prescribed for the general public here in the UK. It is used for military personnel only, due to the worry of a biological attack.

Through the initial stages of the Iraq war, 22% of our military refused the anthraz vaccine, after a period of time, when the threat level of a biological attack became almost zero, rates of refusal nearly tripled from 22% to 59%.

The infant vaccination programme in Britain does not include Smallpox, that was discontinued in 1971.

https://vaccineknowledge.ox.ac.uk/uk-schedule

[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is true. However, it does not change that your original statement was false.

In the US military, an anthrax vaccine was mandatory for a time upon deploying the Middle East. It is a very painful vaccine that makes anthrax survivable, but anthrax will still do a lot of damage regardless. I would say this is very similar to the results we see with the covid vaccine, though the covid vaccine is actually much more effective.

Notice I correctly use the word "vaccine" for both of these. A vaccine is simply a biological preparation that gives our immune system exposure to train against a real threat, without experiencing the adverse impacts of the real threat itself.

You may add qualifiers to the "vaccine" word, such as a "permanent, one-dose vaccine." Now you've correctly established an appropriate context to properly communicate what you mean correctly

I have found in life it is better to remain silent when I have doubt, than to spread false information.

Here is a small tip: regardless of the controversy around AI, a helpful way to use it is to state something you think as fact, and double check with the AI. This provides you with a more objective medium without needing to experience public embarrassment or offending people.

Good luck!

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're no expert, why spew likely wrong information so confidently? While admitting you don't know what you're talking about, you still aren't clearly admitting you were wrong. You are just pivoting and deflecting. Be honest and open to self reflection and you might become a better person.

[+] infjarchninja@lemmy.ml -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If anyone has the ability to be open and self reflective it is must me.

Now, this is a subject of which I am an expert.

I am a retired psychotherapist with 25 years of psychotherapy practice under my belt.

I am have a masters degree in Integrative Psychotherpy, I am a Transactional Analysts. I am a member of the International Transactional Analysis Association. I used to be a registered Play Therapist. I have 20 years of ongoing continued professional development behind me. I have read enough research to make me blind. I have worked as a psychotherapist within the NHS Community mental health services.

I have spent half my life helping people to live a better life.

Inept and inane replies are just projections of unresolved anger, that people carry around and are tormented by them every waking hour, and are too afraid of their anger to address and confront the people or person they should be angry with.

I always wonder how these people will eventually project all their own shit onto their children, damage them for life, only to carry the same Transgenerational trauma into the next generation.

I am no expert on covid vaccines and It doesnt that really matter when I have a valid opinion.

I love you. stop being an arsehole

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

And yet you are not self reflecting on your attempt to spread misinformation about vaccines. You were blatantly wrong and confidently spreading those lies. Is this because you are angry about something else? Do you agree that misinformation and lies are bad? You say you are intelligent, so let's have it: why were you spreading wrong information? Don't deflect, just try to address this issue. It's actually important. If you really are good at self-reflection and are being honest, maybe we can use this interaction to help work out why misinformation is being pushed so much and how we might stop it.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell us you don't understand how diseases and the immune system work, without telling us you don't understand how diseases and the immune system work.

I mean, Jesus, where to even begin...