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so here I am. What about it?

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's good! Animals are the first exploited class. Their commodification was the first step in the construction of patriarchy and class society. The exploitation of pigs and cows in particular was perhaps the central tool in the colonization of what is now the United States, with huge numbers of these invasive animals unleashed to roam through and destroy carefully managed native ecologies, destroying the food webs that sustained native nations and making them dependent on European colonial food systems. That pattern repeated as colonists moved across the continent (the great plains were cleared to provide land for cattle ranching, leading to the genocide of the people and ecocide of the non-human life, two parts of the same process).

Today, the exploitation of animals has reached heights of cruelty and mechanization that would have been inconceivable for earlier generations. The animals themselves suffer unimaginably hellish conditions, lives of torture and imprisonment from birth to slaughter. The endless pursuit of more grazing and feed crop land is the biggest driver of habitat destruction on the planet, making animal agriculture the primary cause of plant and animal extinction around the world. The continued assaults on indigenous people in the Global South are for the expansion of this system. The labor conditions are horrific, with slaughterhouses and animal processing facilities driving the push to restore child labor in the US under dangerous and deadly conditions. Animal agriculture is second only to the burning of fossil fuels for its contribution to climate change. All pandemics are derived from animal agriculture and the disease ridden environments it depends on.

Animal agriculture is an apocalyptic crime of gargantuan scale that threatens the life and health of every organism on the planet.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You misread, ask about Animal liberalism

Dolphins are neoliberals

Beavers are keynesians

Giraffes-you hate to see it-classical libs

Sperm Whales are usually georgists

Groundhogs are antideutsch and split over zionism

beavers are keynesians

Peak

Ohhh that makes more sense. Not a lot more but still

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No idea how serious this post is, but look at the sidebar on the vegan community for some texts.

vegan-liberation

[–] TrueStalinistPatriot@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

I read "ask us about animal liberation" on the splash text and decided to do as it says

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Animal liberation is good. Animals deserve understanding and respect. Societally, this is absolutely not the case, so we are beginning the process to liberate them.

Consider a leather belt. An animal was created (often violently), raised in poor conditions, killed, and processed to make that belt. Did it need to be? No. Belts made of other materials are just as good, even. The suffering was pointless, and for such a trivial thing. The only difference in outcome for the animals between the animal that died for leather and someone killing a pet animal on purpose is that we ignore and normalize the former while the latter requires transgressing norms. The violence and pointlessness of it remain.

This is a very large industry. Millions and millions of animals forced into this cycle. The scale of suffering is massive and cannot be addressed without large-scale organizing.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Animals are comrades, and just like you and me, don't want to suffer, and actively avoid suffering.

Carnism is a "default" aristocratic-imitation ideology in many countries, meaning that someone agrees with the commodification of animal bodies and the things their bodies can produce, so that humans can profit. Veganism is the ideology which opposes this commodification.

If you see animals as comrades, then carnist production can be seen as a kind of slave economy, where the animals are made to produce products, or consumed directly.

Even from a materialist perspective, carnist production makes zero sense, as it wastes far more land and water, and pollutes far more, than the equivalent land usage for standard agriculture. Any Marxist confronted with these facts would have to either go vegan, or continue living in denial. I have some infographics I can post about this.

Modern carnist production is then essentially aristrocratic imitation, since the majority of every culture's caloric energy comes from regular agriculture.

If you want to see carnist production in the modern day, I suggest watching dominion. If you aren't already a vegan, this should be required, as animals don't have a choice but to live through this.

It's also extremely easy to go vegan nowadays. A decade ago when I turned vegan, I looked up all my favorite meat recipes, and the vegan chef wizards on youtube know how to recreate it almost exactly. I've mad vegan chicken, steak, and others for years, and it's surprisingly easy.

[–] tim_curry@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My cat sent me to the pit and dropped a grenade in barbara-pit

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

You know how learning about the various strains of leftism is how you elevate yourself above liberals? Learning about (and doing your part for) animal liberation is how you elevate yourself above leftists.^[Source: I watched that film with the vegan that eats chicken]