I can agree that car culture is making some games worse because of terrible infrastructure thinking, Cyberpunk is a terrible choice to criticize. It's supposed to be a capitalistic hellscape, why wouldn't the same terrible city design influence Night City's corporate builders?
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Because dystopian setting doesn't have to mean shitty gameplay and design.
Are you seriously saying that Cyberpunk of all games have bad gameplay?
I'm not certain what argument you're making here. That Cyberpunk by definition cannot have bad gameplay, or that Cyberpunk has been critically acclaimed to have good gameplay.
I am simply stating that I, along with most other people, who have played the game would say that Cyberpunk's gameplay is amazing. I would say that you eight haven't played the game or isn't a serious person if you state that Cyberpunk's gameplay is bad, as if that is an obvious statement.
First of all, I am not the author. I haven't even played CP. I am merely sharing someone else's opinions. Furthermore I will point out that CP was absolutely lambasted on release to the point that it became a joke, so it's far from obvious to others that its "gameplay is amazing".
In fact, the video makes the argument that most the flaws of CP are down to the lost effort of trying to make a large car-central cityscape with their budget, so I'm seriously wondering if you actually watched the video or you're one of those weird nerds who reflexively feels the need to jump in front of criticism for megacorporations who don't give a fuck about you. Which would be extra ironic when the subject is CP.
Please don't abbreviate cyberpunk.
I think it's pretty obvious from context he is not talking about Child Porn.
The problem is that most of his arguments kinda fall flat? It feels like he didn't finish the prologue (like other people pointed at).
Like he started with saying that the story is bad, because it doesn't ask any question. But it does ask what happens, when you are being slowly replaced with other, what happens when your personality can be digitalized. Also, story was the one thing that was praised on release.
The other thing he missed is that you don't need to drive in this game. Like there's a fast travel checkpoint everywhere, it's faster to use them.
Also his solution to fixing Night City is weird. I could understand wanting smaller maps if the game was empty, but NC is really dense with stuff to do.
I usually like his videos on urbanization or architecture, but sometimes he has weird takes
Played Cyberpunk at release and then after the fixes a bit before the dlc released, gameplay is mediocre at best, typical uninspired AAA open world design. Also, at release the "RPG" elements were complete garbage as well, you'd level up to get an incredible +2% on handling handguns. Oh wow, so great, such innovation!! The only really good thing about Cyberpunk is the writing and voice acting on dialogues, because the "story" is uninspired and badly written as well.
I don't doubt that you or any other person would feel that way, but the person I responded to was speaking as if the gameplay was widely disliked, like it was a common opinion. The majority of people who have played Cyberpunk, including me, love the gameplay.
And calling the story badly written is just straight up delusional, lol
I played Cyberpunk hundreds of hours and I generally enjoy this game, but the gameplay is not good. Especially driving the vehicles lol. But also the combat, it's very boring and doesn't offer much depth. Also, all the secondary missions are very repetitive and inconsequential. What I enjoy about the game: map design, vibes, story and characters.
Cyberpunk has many qualities as a video game, gameplay isn't one of them. The combat is boring as hell, which strategy you choose (stealth or brutal) doesn't matter one bit, NPCs are blind and stupid, the higher difficulty levels just gives them more HP but they are still fucking stupid, driving the vehicles is absolutely horrible, the RPG elements are over simplified.
I don't care if you feel that way, but that isn't a common opinion held by people who's played it.
I think it's a fairly common opinion. AdamSomething is not the first one to talk about the lack of gameplay in this game on YouTube. It didn't bother me that much in my first playthrough because I was invested in the story, but when starting a new game, it's very obvious.
Counter point (published before): https://aftermath.site/cyberpunk-urban-design
The argument is that they took all the not fun parts of driving (namely parking and retrieving your car) to make driving fun.
The comments on the video are butchering it, particularly since it's a game. Which makes sense, since the car element feels more like a style and gameplay choice that they managed, while still building what seems like a walkable city.
I mean, I didn't even like the driving in cyberpunk, but getting the cars was fun and I loved my little quadra.
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All his complaints are about Cyberpunk as a whole, not just this video game. Cyberpunk is supposed to explore a dystopic American corporate city. Of course the billionaires would keep the car-centric design. It's much easier to create a surveillance state that way.
No this was really about the video game specifically
Tell me you've never played Cyberpunk without telling me you've never played Cyberpunk.
One doesn't have to play the game to comprehend what the video is talking about.
Ok, Boomer. You probably think D&D is satanic worship as well.
Lol, what a statement.
You really need to work on your context clues. That was an analogy, not a statement.
And an analogy isn't a statement? Also it wasn't an analogy? Wait! Nevermind! I don't actually care what you have to say anymore 😁
Ok, Boomer. Stay willfully ignorant, just as I predicted.
The dudes in the YT chat have never heard of Snowpiercer
What do you mean by that?
I'm talking about all the comments that said that it wouldn't be a cyberpunk dystopia without cars
Does Snowpiercer classify as Cyberpunk? Cyperpunk is "Low life and high tech", and in Snowpiercer, the highest tech they have is the titular train. Apart from the train, they don't really have much in the way of high tech. The only thing I can think of are the drawers.
I would say so, the train and tracks are pretty high tech, as well as the cold suits, plus in the final season of the show there's some more high tech that leans into Cyberpunk
Well, I've only seen the movie. And I got bored half the way through and stopped watching.