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the uk government basically just proscribed a uk group as terrorists just so they could give a million pound contract to israel (the very firm that palestine action spoke out against).
Holy shit UK. Are you trying to beat the US in the fascism race that bad? I mean, you were already there, there is no need to sprint this fast.
THIS IS THE FUCKING LEFT WING PARTY TOO.
Fucking incredible. I'm amazed at how reasonable the country I left the UK for is every time I read the news. It's not perfect but fucking hell, there's respect, decorum and going from the left wing government to the center right and back again hasn't had massive impacts on my human rights and civil liberties.
Meanwhile in the fucking UK...
They are not left wing. They are a neoliberal manufactured opposition.
tHeY ArE NoT LeFt wInG
Yeah, out of the big 4 (Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Reform) tell me which one has the most unions working within the party, and has the history of being made up of union representatives, or you know, representing the LABOURers .
Oh wait, is it the Labour party? And my comment is about how much of a fucking shithole the UK has become and why I fucking left that shithole because there's no fucking hope, when THE LEFT WING PARTY behaves like this.
Go walk into your own edge, you fucking edgelord.
They are not left wing as in anti capitalist or in favour of greater social or economic equality.
They are left wing historically, and in their branding.
So your point about this being what’s supposed to be the leftwing party totally stands.
But the other commenters point stands as well.
Sure, but they are a reactionary edgelord
Is there anything that screams conservative media more than someone who doesn’t even live in Britain any more moaning about how bad it is now? Andrew Neill from the South of France, Isabel Oakeshotte from Dubai, et al
That's right buddy, I'm making this post not as a lamentation that the left wing in Britain has stopped existing, but as an encouragement to the public to empower one of the awful right wing parties. /S
Unions aren’t even left-wing. Trump has the support of one of the biggest unions. If Starmer threw money at them they’d lick his feet.
How do you define left wing? I would define it as pro-worker, and in the UK, that has historically meant working closely with unions. It makes sense given we have a representative democracy, and unions represent their members, so the government talking to union leaders is consistent with being left wing (at least in the UK, no idea about the US tbh).
Starting with the first Red Scare, the US government spent decades trying (with some success) to force unions to not be even slightly socialist, to the point of letting Mafia-controlled unions like the Teamsters gain members. The corrupt and useless AFL/CIO was set up as a trades-based (and racially segregated) alternative to the IWW.
The Thatcher government waged war on the unions in the UK, but with less success; some are still fairly leftwing. Meanwhile, Labour centrists have had a long policy of trying to reduce the influence of unions on the party, as well as purging its membership of socialists.
Unions aren’t even left-wing.
unions represent the workers against the capitalists, thus left wing. If there are unions that do not do that, they are a scam.
Trump has the support of one of the biggest unions.
Yeah, but he doesn't support the unions in general. A fool and his support are soon parted.
We aren't happy with the rate of implementing fascism, and the polls show we could next elect a guy who will speed it up even more.
Dark, dark days in the UK and USA. Here's hoping for more transatlantic cooperation between those of us opposed to it.
Us and Uk are leading the pack, the rest of the westod regimes will follow obediently like a dog.
Global capital captured all of these regimes and global capital wants the authoritarian from with them at the top.
JFC... How much control does Israel actually exert on these clown westoid regimes.
Good to see people who can stand tall, doing so... But something got to give.
It seems every regime whores loyalty is to Israel first.
Did they all got taped raping children because that's really the only way they all would be this limp dick.
It’s illegal for a foreign country* to try to influence domestic political outcomes
*Except Israel it’s illegal to be mad if Israel does it
That's what gets me. The west doesn't even give China nearly this much slack even though China has immense economic power over the west's economies. What the hell is going on with Israel?
Money. Jews/Israel have financed large chunks of western politicians. China hasn't done that to such a massive extent, but I'm sure they will now considering how cheap and corrupt western politicians are. The only difference is the price.
I don't think Chinese living within EU or US would be permittted what AIPaC and ADL did.
They will try but that spot is already taken
Give it time. Corruption is corrosive. When you're already defending a genocide out of greed, you're already 90% of the way to betraying everyone you've ever known, and everything you've ever believed.
There really needs to be a climbdown on this idiocy. Hopefully it will also end the career of the minister who pushed so hard for it.
That would be the PM then. After all no matter what, he has to sign off on prescribed organisations. Ministers don't get free reign over things like that.
He's really turning out to be a disappointment. Being a former human rights lawyer I had great hopes he would actually uphold them. I'm guessing that was naive.