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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Both Sides" shit is dumb, but not inherently tankie.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No but creating a reactionary community in response to an anti-Tankie community is inherently Tankie. Posting there unironically is full on Tankie.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Libjerk is legitimate, if distasteful in its scope (the sidebar noting even such figures as Bernie Sanders as 'libs', which is, at the very least, attacking people for taking society closer to the direction one wants it to go). There's a long history of conflict between liberals, people whom some leftists call liberals, and radical leftists.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -2 points 3 months ago

Why would you react negatively to Tankiejerk if you're not a fucking Tankie?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not seeing what this has to do with tankies. Nor did I see anyone saying Trump or his policies are not that bad.

Seems like you’re just grumpy about being banned which I mean OK but it has nothing to do with this community.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you're being downvoted and argued with because you're implying that under obama/biden, ICE wasn't already a racist operation that would often systematically frame immigrants. Your original point is that it's much worse now, which I would agree with, but you're arguing it by saying that it was totally justified before, which I would not agree with.

You being banned is maybe over the top but then again you kinda sound like a liberal, ironically in the lib jerk community.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You were banned from an anarchist comm for being pro incarceration.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bro what tf is “pro incarceration”. should murderers just be left alone?

[–] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Go ask an anarchist if you really want to know but it shouldn't surprise you that they're generally against putting people in prisons and find all ICE detention centers abhorrent (ie "Go read the 8th amendment").

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t respect any anarchist who hasn’t moved somewhere like Somalia or Western Sahara, i.e. places with no functioning government and which are quite literally in anarchy. They’re all just cosplayers who hide behind a combination of privilege and ignorance.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You have a child's understanding of anarchism if you think "anarchy is when no government". And to be fair there are lots of children online who do believe that.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

noun: anarchy

  1. 
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority or other controlling systems.

You can’t “no true Scotsman” an argument by just saying that two textbook-definition examples don’t apply while giving no counter examples or elaboration why.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bleys@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

www.wikipedia.org

pick one successful example. it should be easy since there are so many

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

pick one successful example of a capitalist society that isn't evolving into a fully fascist authoritarian regime.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Iceland

Bonus: Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Australia, The Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Finland, Canada, New Zealand…

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah, it figures that a liberal would pick a bunch of countries that are current or former fascists and US allies in a list of "successful" capitalist countries. half these countries are in the news at this very moment for curtailing their citizens rights and privacy, and the other half are colonial states with a long history of genocide.

in other words, the very definition of successful for a liberal. you and tankies have more in common than you think, bud.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

lol i can tell you’re not a very successful person in real life due to a combination of arrogance and ignorance, and that bitterness has led you to a very incoherent political ideology. my condolences amigo

[–] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That is a child's understanding of anarchism. Anarchy is not Anarchism. There is nothing to "no true Scotsman" when we're talking about completely different words. Its like saying "communism is when you live in a commune".

I don't expect everyone to be well versed on 19th century philosophies but at least don't be so arrogant about your ignorance. If you want to learn more go ask the people the people at DB0.

Edit: looks like you found one and demonstrated your learning disabilities to them. Good job!

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i’m sorry your fantasy political system where everyone magically works together has zero real world examples of success.

also calling someone out for “learning disabilities” is certainly a choice, maybe if you actually had the courage to back your ideology you could move somewhere that you can use the real word you want to.

[–] sudo@programming.dev -4 points 3 months ago

Buddy I never said I was an anarchist. I just actually know what the word means. That's why i kept directing you to DB0. Your ego and arrogance has clearly affected your ability to learn.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Libertarian socialism" is a synonym for anarchy, in a political ideology sense; replace the latter with the former in your head when you see it and it will make much more sense.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lmao that literally doesn’t make any sense and the fact that you can’t provide a single example of it in the real world should illustrate that fact.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Wow a government that lasted less than three years, and existed entirely in parallel with a massively violent war that had engulfed the entire country. Stunning example of a successful state.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You should get off your high horse and just try to inform yourself since you clearly have no intention of pursuing a civil conversation

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol you still haven’t answered a single question. You know you’re wrong but at least you’ve found your safe space to do so.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are deliberately hostile for no reason and expect people to answer you doubts, if you can call purposeful obtuseness that. You are an idiot who already decided to ignore all answers and if you're so curious you will find your own answers or be content in your impolite ignorance

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

call someone deliberately hostile

in the very next sentence call them an idiot, making you the first person in the chain to throw out personal insults

lmao

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it -3 points 3 months ago

You are deflecting, and if you think the only requirement to being hostile is throwing insults than you shouldn't be surprised if you get called an idiot.

People are hostile when you are hostile.

Idiot :)

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -4 points 3 months ago

Yeah but directly before that is the community Libjerk, which is clearly the Tankies being defensive over and parodying Tankiejerk, so their belief in either anarchy or the 8th amendment is laughable at best and insulting at worst.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Seen it on reddit several times. They infiltrate lefty spaces and try to take them over. db0 has been very tolerant of their bullshit so it's only logical they would migrate there to avoid the stigma of having ml attached to their name. Actually I think I tagged a db0 user yesterday for this shit.

Nvm it was a wtf account, coincidentally also a month old. Also a down vote in the 30 seconds it took me to check. They're camping this thread lol.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The vibe check is pretty useful to know of someone is just trollbaiting

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It can be but not always true. My older world account has about 35% vib check, but it's because I kept arguing it either tankies or other dumbasses on other topics.

Partially my own fault though.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah that happens

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -2 points 3 months ago

Yeah DB0 has always been pretty sketch tbh but now they set up that parody community libjerk, too.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

rolls eyes in an overly dramatic and hella gay fashion

[–] remon@ani.social 5 points 3 months ago

Hey, at least got to posted in the community. I was banned from there without even knowing it existed.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

When I corrected this user that it would make no sense for Trump to remove the criminal focua if that were true, they got ratio'd and banned me.

https://piefed.world/comment/1175830