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Soy and beans (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by salty_chief@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

??? I'm no vegan but this is just complete BS and today being vegan has almost no negative impact on your health. Yes, you have to take some suplememts, but even if you eat animal products you often still need suplements.

[+] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Test the soy for glyphosate....

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No need if it's organic. You should check your meat tho. Guess what animals are raised on...

[+] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I raise my own, thanks

How much soy is organic???

Last I checked 97% of soy is GMO to ignore glyphosate

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Uhhh sir. You have just confused genetic modification and a weed killer. Please stop embarrassing yourself. This is a Wendy's.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Do you not know how gylophosate works??

The plant needs to be modified to ignore the glyphosate that attaches to the nutrients that causes all plants unable to eat therefore die.

Now thia modified plant is chalk full of glyphosate while its growing

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Once again I'm baffeled by people like him beeing able to raise an intelligent and feeling animal, kill it and devour its cadaver (and beeing proud of it, lol).

Like, just eat the crops directly instead of passing it through an animal and loose like >80% of harvested callories)

He's right on the GMO thing, tho. There are crops that have been specifically modified to increase their resistance to glyphosate.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I know how intellegent animals are. I have to interact with them daily.

And yes I know I am right about glyphosate, Monsanto (now bayer) used to sue farmers for recovering seeds from soy because it infringed on their patents. Also do the same things with cotton. Farmers used to feed the sheep the left overs untill the GMO product started to kill the sheep...

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that what he was trying to say? I couldn't find a way to read that so it made sense.

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, because I already knew what he was talking about. Your interaction reminded me a bit of this xkcd:

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Strangely I only know what a quartz lattice looks like. No idea what olivine is off the top of my head.

Is GMO resistance to pesticides instead of resistance to pests the low effort hack it sounds like to a non-ag major?

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How much soy is organic???

Just all the soy I'm eating...

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hahahah, oh how naive you are. All that glyphosate has gone to your brain budd

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hahahah, oh how naive you are.

What you'd call naive, i'd call it idealistic. Like 99% of GMO soy is used for animals. If I am naive if I exlusively buy organic and regional (at least from the same country, not the other side of the world) legumes and soy products, so be it...

All that glyphosate has gone to your brain budd

From what i've seen in documentaries about Roundup rural regions have more miscarriages and malformed babies so i guess the main risk is still exposure in the direct environment (living and drinking tap water in areas with a lot of conventional agriculture).

I assumed pesticides were like antibiotics where the stuff is stored inside fat and muscle tissue and found in high concentrations in meat products aswell but it seems i was wrong. Most articles online found high concentrations on conventionally produced fruits and vegetables.

I'm not gonna change your mind by arguing with you on the internet, and I'm not trying to, but I'm genuenly curious: How can you eat something you raised? I've had chickens, rabbits and dogs in the past and I couldn't imagine eating them. Each one was an individual and had their own personality and character. I'd probably puke if someone told me I've just eaten them.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How can you eat something you raised?

Chickens are easy, I don't name them or interact other than feeding. Although I did have trouble with the last female last year. Put her into the chicken holder and she managed to get out.

We do have 3 egg layers that are 8-9 now and couldnt eat them

Pigs, I interact daily, give them scratches and treats. We send them to an abittoir.

Everything dies eventually, at least I know they had a good life while it lasted.

[–] pitiable_sandwich540@feddit.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We do have 3 egg layers that are 8-9 now and couldnt eat them

I've heard that kind of attachement to favorite animals from a couple of farmers. Perhaps this is psychologically similar to a teacher having a teachers pet while all others "move on"?

Pigs, I interact daily, give them scratches and treats. We send them to an abittoir.

Ah okay, so is your existentce is dependent on animal farming? So it's like a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas"-kind of situation...

Everything dies eventually, at least I know they had a good life while it lasted.

It sounds like you really do care, but their existence is imo rather needlessly (and in some cases horrifically) cut short, no? Maybe i've thought about this to much but I always ask myself: How old would domesticated animal get if they are not slaughtered and can I justify this choice by the imo neglible gains (not having to take as many supplements and the taste i am accustomed from my youth) I gets from a omnivorous diet?

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Everything animal wise is for personal consumption. I am a small scale brewer so my grains get fed to all my animals.

Typically egg layers are slaughterd after 2 years, my 8 yr old hens still produce eggs. And yes I would consider them a pet at this stage. Ive built automated egg laying coups for a semi large producer of eggs and I know how they are treated, 10 chickens in a 1.5'1.53, 3 rows high. No ability to walk. They also produce lower quality eggs

Yes all the animals we eat tend to have short lives but in my case longer than factory farmed animals (chickens 150-200 days vs 45)

Pigs get all the weeds from our garden, any leftovers from veggies to meats, the odd egg that breaks too

At one point we had 50 chickens and a mink got in and killed all but 5, none had been eaten, just killed for sport. That imo is needlessly killing.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

OP's "memes from 2011" folder keeps hitting

[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you been sharing fresher memes?

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago

You go to the damn meme factory and make them yourself!

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Never seen a fat vegan. 👊🎤

[–] unknown@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago

We're not all health food and exercise obsessed just because we don't consume animal products.

Even the fattest vegans are likely healthier than their equivalently sized meat and dairy consuming counterparts though as processed animal products are carcinogens.

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

I have seen plenty. Potato’s are hell of a drug.

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Vegans really can't take a joke lol

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I loved The English Patient. Great movie

[–] Sunbutt23@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

To prevent death, the Galaxy is on Orion’s Belt

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 months ago

Aw, aren't you a fucking moron.