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Opinion | The Biden administration should rethink its Israeli-Palestinian policies (www.washingtonpost.com)
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[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago

The author completely misses the fact that Biden went to Israel to advocate for limited (or no) ground incursion at all. Literally no one wants this. He's even asking china to talk to Iran, because he knows that china really doesn't want this.

TL;DR Author of this opinion piece only reads headlines and not actual news of what is going on.

[-] hedge@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

🤔 Interesting . . . I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have some links to back this up? Would like to read up on this.

[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sorry, I was reading an article today and it popped into my head that I had never responded to you. This article specifically referenced it which is why it popped into my head:

https://news.yahoo.com/us-asks-israel-explanation-strike-192900314.html?guccounter=1

Before Israel’s ground operation into Gaza, the Biden administration had been urging Israel to conduct a “more surgical” operation instead of a full-scale invasion due to the high potential for both civilian and IDF casualties, said the first U.S. official.

This is very paraphrased in the article, but the gist of it is correct.

There are articles on the China part of it but they got buried quickly. Basically The Biden admin was asking china to talk to Iran to try to get them to chill a bit so that things don't end up going completely off the rails. Keep in mind that Hezbollah is basically state sponsored by Iran, so this isn't just Iran the country being asked to chill out, but Hezbollah as well. And it worked as far as I can tell, because Hezbollah put out a statement the other day being inflammatory pricks like they are but also showed some restraint (of which the article took note), which is notable.

Edit: Here is the article I was talking about: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hezbollah-gaza-hamas-lebanon-b2441350.html

Read that and then ask yourself... Does this sound like the Hezbollah I know about? Because the Hezbollah I know of would be ass deep in Jihad right now.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago

Hamas wanted to start a regional war, and didn't think that the US would have a musclur response. But the US did, and for now the cork is in the Lebanon bottle. Now geniuses like this think that's the wrong way to go.

[-] psudo@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

I feel like you didn't read the opinion piece at all, and just ran with your feelings from the title. In the first two paragraphs the author talks about how I agreed with the strong initial response to the terrorist attack. It's the wonton targeting of civilians and looking the other way as language of genocide is being used that the author, and every else that I know that isn't blindly pro one side or the other takes.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

I've seen the secondary explosions of Hamas tunnels hit right next to the Gaza hospital. I've seen Hamas reports of commanders dieing from Israeli bombs near Rahfa. Maybe what the author calls "wonton targeting" isn't exactly true all the time. Maybe he's confused about where Hamas likes to hang out. Maybe he doesn't understand that the US forced Israel to turn up Gaza's internet yesterday. Since he doesn't understand the geopolitics, probably doesn't understand that either.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles:

Click here to see the summaryI’m glad Biden and his administration rallied to Israel’s defense immediately after the heinous attacks that killed more than 1,400 Israelis.

And as The Post reported Friday, Biden administration officials have been privately discouraging Israel from starting a full-scale ground invasion in Gaza, which would likely lead to massive civilian casualties.

Israel’s bombing seems less a targeted effort to kill Hamas terrorists and more a general punishment for everyone who lives in Gaza in retaliation — and the United States continues to tacitly approve it.

Questioning casualty numbers, going to journalists’ bosses to get them to change their coverage, using vague talking points and carefully policing the language of underlings are signs that administration officials are not confident and proud of their policies.

But his administration’s actions over the past few weeks have been both very old-guard (strongly aligning with Israel’s government) and without enough regard for the views of Arab Americans and others who are deeply hurt by the killing of so many Palestinian civilians.

I hope the president shifts his approach, especially as Israel appears this weekend to be moving into a new phase in its military response to Oct. 7.

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