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[-] azdood85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ive been called a nazi for liking firearms.

Meanwhile, I openly support antifa.

So im not sure this is completely accurate.

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[-] Hextic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So much for the tolerant left

[-] teft@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You should never tolerate intolerance. The nazis basic philosophy boils down to intolerance. If you let that shit continue then you end up with genocide. So fuck those nazi shit heels. And if you're sympathizing with a cartoon nazi maybe you should reevaluate your life choices.

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[-] KoofNoof@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I met a guy once who flew Nazi flags on his car. Figured I’d actually talk to him about it reasonably rather than reacting and calling him a Nazi. He basically explained he only did it because he had the right to because of freedom of speech and expression.

It was almost like he was just trying to bait people because he enjoyed the commotion?

Idk it was weird, but makes me wonder if that’s how most of these “nazi” people are

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[-] average650@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Can I not say that there are real fascists on the right, that it's a very serious issue, and that I don't agree with some things the left strongly identifies with?

[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

and that I don't agree with some things the left strongly identifies with?

Why don't you go ahead and name some of those things then?

[-] average650@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I am against abortion. But someone else might be more libertarian (I am not a libertarian) yet view the Republican party as evil. Even if you think that person not a good person, calling them a nazi or a fascist doesn't really make sense.

[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I am against abortion.

Pretty big yikes to start out with just a blanket statement like that, but you do you.

But someone else might be more libertarian (I am not a libertarian) yet view the Republican party as evil. Even if you think that person not a good person, calling them a nazi or a fascist doesn't really make sense.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this part other than you just think the term fascist is being applied in scenarios where there's just disagreement?

But it really isn't difficult to see the modern Republican party very much represents the ideals of fascism. It isn't even a stretch. Let's go through the definition of fascism:

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" - from Merriam Webster Online

so in order:

  1. Exalts nation and often race of above the individual? Check.
  2. stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader? Seeing as how they tried to install Trump with a coup in 2021 I'd say that's a pretty easy check.
  3. severe economic and social regimentation? All you have to do is look at republican tax cuts to see that is a big fat CHECK.
  4. forcible suppression of opposition? Look at who supports the police force and what groups are typically on the receiving end of police brutality. Check.

As you can see it doesn't take waving a nazi flag or sieg heiling all over the place to fit at least some of the requirements to be labeled a fascist, and if we go by these metrics there are a lot of people actively supporting fascism in our country right now. I don't think the term is much overused to be honest.

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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

See also: "wow are you suggesting this person doesn't have the right to express themselves?? Sounds like you're the real Nazi!"

[-] soviettaters@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Of course they have the right to express themself. That makes it easier to find the Nazis, duh

[-] Platomus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I want Nazis to be scared to share their ideas. I want Nazis to be so scared they don't crawl out of the gutters they live in.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's basically what the right wants for the left!

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[-] Scew@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Please describe how you imagine a "Nazi" wakes up and gets ready for their day. I'm curious what's behind the label. Would you also use the words 'toxic' and 'bigot' to describe these people and if not what does a 'toxic' person and a 'bigot' do to start their days? (from your perspective, of course)

[-] Platomus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Please describe how you imagine a "Nazi" wakes up and gets ready for their day. I'm curious what's behind the label.

What? Obviously a Nazi wakes up at 7:30 sharp, puts on their arm band then combs their dumb little brush mustache. Then they heil and finish getting ready. /s

What kind of question is that? There's no one way nazis wakes up. That's not what makes a Nazi a Nazi.

Would you also use the words 'toxic' and 'bigot' to describe these people and if not what does a 'toxic' person and a 'bigot' do to start their days? (from your perspective, of course)

Are you trying to imply Nazis aren't bigots and dangerous/toxic to society, and if not - why did you even ask this? What is the purpose of that question if not to imply that?

I'm talking about Nazis. Nazi Nazis. The Nazis that keep popping up everywhere. This was news, big news at the time. Pretending like you didn't see it isn't an excuse now, because you've now been shown it.

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

A centrist makes up their mind based on the merits of the topic, not based on opinions from the left or the right. A centrist isn't someone who says "both sides have a point."

So I'm not sure what this comic has to do with centrists.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"Self professed centrists"

Something tells me those that call themselves centrists, don't always subscribe to the actual definition of centrism. But in praxis, centrists share a status quo mentality, which means they're pro-capitalism, which means they side with the political right on most issues.

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I mean, have you ever seen a guy shouting sieg Heil with a Nazi flag?

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Nope, I haven't. Seen plenty of normal people getting called fascists by internet leftists. Lots dehumanzing from internet leftists, actually. Kinda ironic.

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