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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I been saying it for years. Cut a self-identified libertarian and you will find a Republican who groked on that all the cute girls he is interested in aren't going to date him unless he lies about what he believes.

Here is some advice: if you are ashamed about what you believe consider changing it.

[-] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not a cute girl, but a rather plain woman so I get the memos, and generally we're not a big fan of libertarians either. There are some outliers but yeah, the ruse was not super effective.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

[on a date]

Her: Huh, so Libertarians think laws about pornography should be relaxed? What kind of porn exactly?
Him: ...
Her: What kind of porn, exactly?
Him: Well--
Her: I'm just kidding, I called a Lyft as soon as you said you were a Libertarian.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Strange that women would be against a group of people who

  • Want to hand over all reproductive control over your body to the state legislation.
  • Want to strip away all anti-discrimination protections.
  • Hope to pull away all social support. Including WIC.
  • Remove school funding

Are you telling me you are not looking forward to the era where you have to stay married to a man who beats you because if you leave or even call the cops it will mean utter ruin for you and your children? Children who won't be able to get free schooling or even discounted food. And of course your employer will be able to sexually harass you as much as they would like since it isn't technically a violation of the NAP but even if it were you won't report him because you really need this job. Why wouldn't women like to return to the 1850s?

[-] Chalky_Pockets@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Want to hand over all reproductive control over your body to the state legislation.

I like to make fun of libertarians as much as the next guy, but this is not a common position of theirs and it doesn't check out with the basic tenets of libertarianism, or diet anarchy as I like to call it. Their positions are usually more along the lines of "abortion should be legal, but the government shouldn't be paying for it." Which I strongly disagree with because I can do very basic math, but I think it's a distinction between libertarians and republicans because you would have a different approach in trying to address their stance. I can at least work with someone who thinks they should be available but not free, I will not try to find common ground with someone who thinks they should be restricted, there's absolutely no room for "proudly ignorant but otherwise innocent" in the latter, they're just ghouls who should have been aborted.

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[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Can we get a real libratarian starter pack? What's that look like?

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

here is a teaser

I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Real libertarianism looks more like anarchism. There's no strong central body (neither government or corporation), community helps each other, total personal liberty, etc. Political anarchism is generally "lib-left" on a political compass while classical libertarianism is "lib-right".

As a tangent, I very much dislike the ambiguous words we chose for the political compass, they have usage that could indicate so many different things on their own. For example, if I saw someone referring to republicans as "lib-right", I'd say no shit because both parties in the US are liberal political parties.

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[-] Cianalas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It depends on who you ask. 10 years ago, it was mostly classical liberals that defected from the Republicans after the GOP started focusing their messaging on rallying evangelicals. Within the last couple election cycles, which IIRC is right around when they got close to having good enough poll numbers to get in a debate, the loudest group in it became ANCAPs who fight with each other about who's actually extreme enough to earn the libertarian title.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

TL;DR: hippies. (At least for left-libertarians.)

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

If this is what a fake libertarian is, there's no such thing as a real one. This is every single libertarian I've ever conversed with.

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[-] neomis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Says “I’m a libertarian but I’m not one of those crazy ones”.

My followup question is usually what’s your opinion on seatbelt laws and drivers licenses.

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[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I appreciate you guys trying to make me feel at home here by making it seem like reddit. I was starting to worry nobody was going to tell me what I believe.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There seems to be a basic misunderstanding among both the targeted parties and the entertained parties in many posts like these.

Even when this particular post specifies "fake libertarian" in their simplistic collage of observations, many readers end up understanding it as "this is what OP and the upvoters think libertarians are like", and then it's that premise they either agree or disagree with.

It should be said thst if you're a libertarian that is genuinely liberal without the "protect sensitive people through authoritarian means"-mindset, then you're a much different type than the cop-loving "liberty is for white christian land owners"-type this meme is about.

[-] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yup. This comment section is a dumpster fire full of used condoms worthy of those spamming bots of reddit. They are just attacking people for their believes. And not even good ones, just more american culture war bullshit.

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[-] ToastyMedic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Mfw I vote for a 3rd party candidate who aligns with many of my ideals and both a Democrat and a Republican break down my doors screaming that I wasted my vote and should vote (person) because its (not the other person) even though I don't agree with either shitheads policies or agendas.

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Then they're gonna complain about how the system is shit.

Literally just vote third parties and kick those dinosaurs out of congress

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yea I have lately found myself very frustrated with liberals, and politics as a whole lately. I browse both right and left stuff online and they each mirror eachothers sentiments like sports team fandoms. The liberals just hold the dnc party line in the name of fighting fascism cause most of them have done extremely well in the current political and economic climate, whether they admit it or not, capitalism and american democracy has suited them just fine and they don't wanna release the pearls just yet. The right is just shit, tho there are some lines of logic from conservatives I don't outright dismiss, but they're mostly just ignorant assholes. 🤷 I voted Biden, I will again, but the whole wasted vote shit is just laughable tbh. Give me something good, and I'll pick it.

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