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[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 231 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Remember kids, these are the kind of things that got Elon his money

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not things like this, this exactly. He's the trust fund baby of an apartheid era emerald mine baron.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

You might be thinking that getting an x-ray every day is bad for the miners, but this is a ye-olde look through machine. Yes it's bad for the miners, but the guy looking at it is putting his face and uppee body right in the beam here. And I'm guessing he does hundreds of these a day.

Then again, old timey x-ray machines were pretty soft, ~~so~~ (edit) AND the miner is getting big dose of alpha and beta radiation too. And at least the technician isn't breathing coal dust, so it's probably a toss up who gets cancers first.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Both people in this picture are being abused by the company. The difference is that the company also lets the white guy abuse the black guy, and for that reason, the white guy feels superior.

This is one of those things you see in fascist governments. As long as people are able to abuse someone, they'll accept a much worse station as well as a lot of abuse themselves.

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Nah, the real contest is who gets the most cancer. Gotta catch 'em all!

[–] livus@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

@Tar_alcaran ... if the miners even lived long enough to get cancer.

Diamond miners during Apartheid were working in unsafe conditions for ridiculously low wages, often coerced into being there, and at relatively high risk of tuberculosis.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

but the guy looking at it is putting his face and uppee body right in the beam here

Ah, but he's wearing gloves, so he'll be fine.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X-ray tubes, old and new, use high energy electrons that impact a metal to create the beam. Alpha and beta emission is from radioactive decay which is an entirely different phenomenon. But yes bathing your body in X-rays is bad for you

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, I had a brainfart there. You're completely right.

The tube itself emits xrays, but soft xrays have a very high chance of being absorbed by Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen. And since that's mostly what makes up a human, that's kinda bad.

Also he's digging up diamonds, which is in rocks full of radioactive materials. Diamond mine tailings are famously radioactive (and interesting) due all the thorium and radium in them.

[–] nul@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Cancer speedrun any%

[–] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This looks like a fluoroscope, basically an X-ray that is constantly turned on. The tech is looking at a live X-ray view, not a film transparency.

The radiologic exposure for both of them is orders of magnitude higher than a normal x-ray that we think about. A normal xray exposes you for less than a second, this is bombarding him with X-rays the entire time he is standing there.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Plus he had to do this every day at the end of his shift. Between that and the rock dust exposure I'd hate to see the cancer rates for those guys

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's bad for them, but imagine this doctor. He has to examine every one of them every day. If he didn't die of cancer he must not have lived very long.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*technician

This guy doesn't deserve to be called a doctor.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just because a guy in the past was a doctor doing shitty things is no reason to shit on x-ray techs. We really shouldn't put one type of work above another.

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I don't think any of these folks were making it to retirement either way.

[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So you are saying he obtained multiple Superpowers from the ungodly amount of radiation?

[–] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, if you consider having a shit ton of tumors to be a superpower.

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow this machine can also detect cancers of you use it long enough.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Tbf. back then it was not uncommon to xray ones feet in a shoe store to see if the new shoes fit.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause of cancer: too many shoes

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Now the state of California requires a warning label on shoes.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

100% accuracy with enough attempts!

[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You know we still xray people at diamond mines here in South Africa. Try visiting a De Beers mine and see for yourself.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Try visiting a De Beers mine and see for yourself.

I'm depressed enough as it is thank you.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Daily x-rays.... Seems like that won't have any impact to long term survival.

What a humane way to prevent theft.

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I was wondering whether this was worse for the miners or the examiner. I'm sure that today modern technology protects the examiner more thoroughly and that they still don't care about the miners. But I could be wrong. Maybe they don't care about the examiner either.

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Really? Jesus. I would have expected such a thing to have long died out.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they do xray everyday ? If yes , then fuck rich people to death.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is pretty far down the list as far as reasons to not buy diamonds. They're not rare. They're not special. It's a rock with limited industrial use.

For added context, they're still cutting the hands and feet off of dependents (including children) of miners to ensure they work hard.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I do wonder whether this was actually an effective way to look for them. Even with modern high resolution x-ray imaging it may be difficult to see the contrast between soft tissues and diamonds since they're both primarily carbon

bones show up well since they're high in calcium, which has a much higher atomic number. Same with gold.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean if everyone tells you "we have a machine that can see through skin and can check if you have hidden diamonds" that would probably stop any attempts at theft that way. Even if it doesn't actually see them. Also, diamonds out of the mine would be uncut, and probably easier to see.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Correct. Both are "security theater".

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

That's after the diamond has been cut. Raw diamond would be mostly encased in rock which would display differently

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck.

[–] flango@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] mvuvi@baraza.africa 22 points 1 year ago

Galton introduced fingerprinting in South Africa as an experiment after Indians introduced it to him. Managing miners using fingerprints was one of those moments capitalism and colonialism converged on science and technology and shaped the global sector we now call identification.

For more, read The Biometric State by Keith Breckinridge.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

If they're only checking the stomach, hiding it up your ass would work fine

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